MotoGP » Dovizioso on Ducati: The bad point is now


“There is not one big problem and if we fix that we can fight for victory” – Andrea Dovizioso.

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mick - Unregistered

February 15, 2013 8:59 PM

We all need ducati to be up there , with Audi's ownership they can get it sorted. Lets hope Bernhard and the Audi boys can sort the engineering, the Panigale follows the old Ducati concept, bolt on steering head etc , be interesting to see how it goes.

Slide Rules! - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 1:11 AM

TedG, David Emmets desmo story is the rambling of a man who has barely ridden, let alone raced or been directly involved with a race team of ANY significance and with no qualified engineering background. His opinion of the 90deg V4's handicap is not shared by ANY of the best known or most reknowned men past or present in the paddock. Valentino didn't ask for it to be changed so even HE has the same opinion, and that is saying something considering his unending requests for change.
Gobmeiers approach is the best approach they could have taken considering the dead end Burgess and Rossi lead them down.

TedG

February 16, 2013 1:44 AM
Last Edited 584 days ago

@ Slide Rules,
Actually I saw a blog in GPOne that was very technical in explaining the weight bias and the construction of the different frames Ducati was using. I just haven't had the time to find it. The search I did popped up that Emmets thing. I will look for the other one, it makes it hard to find because the orig was in Italian.

Found it:
h t t p://gpone.com/albertocani/2012/07/18/lanalisi-tecnica-il-telaio-della-ducati-gp12-e-la-questione-della-coperta-corta/

Roman - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 6:00 AM

I think we can tell by his record with the Ducati who was responsible for underdeveloping the ducati(if we need to blame a rider).
Casey Stoner
2007 10 wins, 2008 6 wins, 2009 4 wins, 2010 3 wins.
2007 0 dnfs, 2008 2 dnfs, 2009 4 dnfs, 2010 5 dnfs.

The true blame should rest with ducati and ducati only.

Jaybond - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 6:34 AM

OK Screaming Big Bang,

I don't think the hp difference of the current generation 1000cc GP bike is too big compared to the bikes from year 2006 1000cc bikes. 250+bhp is pretty much the maximum power that the GP bikes' chassis and tires could contain (the front running 2006 1000cc bikes produced around 240bhp, not much difference). Anything beyond that is just more suitable for drag racing bikes. As the popular saying goes, power without control means nothing.

Slide Rules! - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 6:51 AM

TedG, Alberto Cani is a self appointed 'Auto Specialist' who's dabbled in bike journalism to supplement his wage. Like Emmet, writing about paddock gossip means he can barely differentiate a moped from a Mack truck.
To believe Honda and Yamaha arrived at this point via pure mathematics and engineering is ignorant just as believing the rapid changes in the last two years at ducati were technically driven.
There is only one rider with the development skills and the raw pace that can unlock the desmos potential, it's a pity ducati were too busy trying to keep their money in europe to see the writing on the wall. Only dumb luck will bring them success now unless they're prepared to step back prior to their aluminium catastrophe.

Slide Rules! - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 10:02 AM

It's hard to have constructive debate with people who choose to create their own 'facts'.
Stoner achieved a higher points tally in 2010 than he did in 2009, so just tell me again how that is going backwards?
If you judge it by wins, then you must also concede Rossi made zero improvements?

derpa - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 10:38 AM

Dovi is a good rider, but he's kidding himself if he thinks he can fight for victories on this bike.
he is nothing compared to Stoner and Rossi, i mean when was the lsat time Dovi actualy won a race.

not bagging him out, i like the guy, but he's no threat other then for 3rd position when he was on Tech 3. he will be riding in the same positions if not worse then where Rossi did

tolduso - Unregistered

February 16, 2013 12:30 PM

well what dovi expect they have hardly changed anything on bike . we all know how Audi update there cars just change nothing. Ducati need to go back to last year stoner was there and remove the stuff they did then to fix the bike

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