MotoGP » Dovi cuts gap, compares Ducati with Honda


"I made two laps behind Dani [Pedrosa] and it is always interesting to follow a faster rider to get the right feedback. The main problem is the turning" - Andrea Dovizioso.

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The Bad Guy - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 12:21 AM

@ Realist
I dont Hate Rossi,But just because he Failed at Ducati(And he and JB set themselves up for Failure) doesnt mean another rider will not improve the bike and that Rider doesnt have to be Dovi.

Realist

February 27, 2013 1:29 AM

@ The Bad Guy

I would agree with you and that frame of thinking IF we were talking about something OTHER THAN the Ducati. There have been an exhaustive list of riders - all talented - who have complained ad nauseum and attempted to usher the manufacturer to fix the bike. Considering all of that enormous talent and experience, only ONE rider was able to successfully ride around those issues, and even he experienced many, many issues on the red bronco. Dovi, who is just like every other front end, corner speed carrying, lower cc rider is not going to make any more progress than Rossi did.

Pablo - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 3:41 AM

While there's no doubt Stoner was an excellent rider, the Ducati at that time was much closer to the Yamaha and Honda in development. He also had tires tailor made for the bike which helped him a lot. The control Bridgestone used now is proven not to be Ducati friendly and Honda and Yamaha have evolved much more than the Ducati. Stoner was wise enough to leave the Ducati at the right time.

speck - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 5:16 AM

@The Bad Guy
so true....i am a fan of the #46 myself...but there is no denying the fact that rossi sucked on the ducati...and these guys are so scared that dovi is gonna outperform him... just remember dovi is right behind the hondas and yamahas...not scrapping with the CRT's.

DJ from TJ - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 5:35 AM

@Realist.

Dude this is not a popularity contest here, so don't get all butthurt because of dislikes, not everybody here has to agree with anyone that's the beauty of it.

Second, many are putting the blame on Rossi for Ducati's misfortunes but reality is that Ducati being so stubborn failed to capitalize on two of the greatest riders ever (Stoner and Rossi) whatever order you might wanna put them in.

Another point I wanna add is that Ducati is under new management and can very well start listening to its riders and be more prone to changes. Dovi might not be the fastest guy out there but, he is one of the most technichally inclined pilots in the series if not the world, so don't be surprised if coming next year the Duc comes out swinging with Dovi and Hayden.

Realist

February 27, 2013 7:03 AM
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@ DJ from TJ

How about you stop assuming that I'm butthurt about anything, and just engage the conversation. These are "people" that I have been conversing with for months & months on Crash (the Regulars so to speak)....leave us to our conversations and debates.

As for the Ducati magically becoming competitive with Audi money......you'll have your opinion and I'll have mine. Only time will tell, but I surely wouldn't bet my mortgage on it.

P.S. Welcome to the conversation!

wayne - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 9:50 AM

rossi and hayden have said the same thing, steering on the back tyre which ruins the tyre and then you drop back - so nothing has changed at all - they are dreaming

D.Dreamer - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 10:41 AM

Hmm who are we to say that Dovi is dreaming? If he is getting a better feeling with the bike then how can we argue. Seems like if a rider moans about the bike he is a whinger but if he gives a positive view then he's a dreamer? The big failing with the Ducati has been it's inability to find a consistent setup, even with Stoner. It works really well on some tracks and on others they can't get a setup. More power to Dovi though, if he can give any positive feedback to the factory it gives them something to improve

The Bad Guy - Unregistered

February 27, 2013 12:50 PM

Ducati's biggest mistake was not making changes to the bike while they had a rider who was in his Prime..Casey Stoner.
Stoner also was his own worst enemy because of his ability to win on the Desmo and ride around the problems.Audi made changes in the engineering /management of the race team for one reason,to speed up upgrades and listen to Rider input instead a having a Engineer who thinks he knows what the bike needs more then the person riding it.
The bad part is Yamaha and Honda are very fast so to close the gap will not be easy..But with Suzuki returning they will not be alone in this task.

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