MotoGP » 2013 MotoGP Testing: Summary so far...


Average positions and lap time improvement by the 2013 MotoGP field after two of the three official pre-season tests.

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Realist

March 18, 2013 7:08 PM

@ Talent Fan

It would be one thing if Bradl wasn't on pace, BUT he is, and he's looking really good. Sure, if I were a betting man, I'd bet on one of the other 4 factory riders, but that doesn't mean that Bradl can't do it. Hell, the Tech 3 boys (who aren't even factory supported) had a good run in 2012. We can agree to disagree though (especially where Rossi is concerned). We'll know in 18 races.

TalentFan

March 18, 2013 7:28 PM

@ jjthekid46

We cannot say that other riders wouldn't win. Not for certain. We can assume that, and yes the best riders tend to get the best seats. But... some riders never get the chance on kit that would show them to their best advantage. With the massive disparity that exists in kit now (which didn't back in 2000 btw) then we can't KNOW that the best guy isn't actually riding a CRT and therefore nowhere. Maybe the odds suggest not, but we can't KNOW. We could know if the field was levelled.

@ Realist It was widely reported & confimed that Gresini were not permitted to beat Repsol HRC wasn't it? What makes you think that LCR have a free pass that Gresini do not, when Repsol pick up a massive part of the tab for Honda's MotoGP effort?

Marc - Unregistered

March 18, 2013 9:03 PM

I guess that Bradl is on or very near factory kit and while the factory riders from Honda and Yamaha have the overwhelming possibility of winning the majority of the races this year and one of them will likely be the 2013 Champion but on any given race you may have a very small chance that a satellite rider may win a race but a slightly better chance to podium on any given race weekend. But Rossi does seem to be one of the top 4 that needs to improve to be more competitive against his compettion.

Realist

March 18, 2013 9:15 PM

@ Marc

I guess I could understand singling out Rossi if he were further behind, but him, Lorenzo and Bradl are all running in the 2'04's, and he's only a half second behind Lorenzo. Historically, that isn't really a big deal.

Grendlehop

March 19, 2013 12:25 AM

Once the lights go out, Honda can't simply press a button on a remote & have Bradl's bike come apart at the seams. Actually, I should've maybe said 6 bikes have a realistic chance at a "W". I need to give Cal @ least a shadow of a doubt, but the "Factory" bikes will fill the podium 9.9 times out of 10.

Seriously! - Unregistered

March 19, 2013 12:34 AM

@TalentFan

So the only way to find out who has the real talent, according to what you are saying, would be to put them all on the same bike, isn't it?
Now Moto2 doesn't even follow that prescription, so who do you think would sponsor/support these races then? The provider of said motorcycles, who else?
It's always going to be riders on different makes and that's what helps sell the product. What has ended the days of turning up on a bike made up of last years championship winning engine in a one off special frame and succeeding is the willingness of the largest manufacturer, and another, to throw obscene amounts of money into a project that gives them bragging rights.
Unfortunately trying to limit the amount spent has amounted to the current three tier competition we see today.
Hopefully, along the way, the great riders get noticed for their talent on lesser machines and are promoted to ride better bikes.

ELGuevo - Unregistered

March 19, 2013 1:01 AM

jjthekid46

"We already know who really are the best riders in MotoGP. Take a look at all riders career achievements pre-Motogp. I give you a hint, the riders with the most successful careers pre-Motogp, are exactly the same riders that are occupying all the Factory seats now."

Stoner didn't win any world championships before GPs and because Rossi blocked yamaha from hiring him he ended up at ducati as the second rider and beating Rossi too.

Proof that karma is a b1tch.

He surprised the world with his riding. If ducati wouldn't have hired him he'd end up in a low support satellite and his talent would've never been discovered.

DePuniet and Bautista could humble the front runners a few times if they had FULL factory support on a honda or yamaha.



rod99 - Unregistered

March 19, 2013 9:43 AM

Crash, in general motorsport people are not the type to positivly react to advertising unless it is forced on them, then the reaction will be negetive.

If you want to have a site, build a following and then once their loyalty is gaine, start bombarding them with pathetic advertising. Have a site about football or some other mass sheeple sport.

I cant speak for anyone else but if your little marketing ambisions continue into when the season kicks of proppa, I wont be visiting anymore.

The previous verion of Crash worked, its why you had hits!!

Codger

March 19, 2013 1:16 PM

rod99...I agree. Bombarding me with F1 adverts and pop-ups is annoying. My interest in car racing is less than zero, so seeing it on a bike page is insulting. Waiting for the page to update every time just makes it worse.

Re the Honda comments....I was jumped on when I said before last season that Honda would need team orders. With Casey and Dani taking the wins between them it gave Yamaha a better shot at the Title. It might happen this year too.

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