MotoGP » Crutchlow conquers final MotoGP pre-season test


"We are still working very hard with the Yamaha, but it's going to be a big battle in Qatar" - Cal Crutchlow.

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TalentFan

March 28, 2013 4:57 PM

@ jjthekid46

I'm afraid that I'm not privy to the affairs of HRC etc. However.. while I'd love it if you were right, I think its naive to believe that there isn't any politics going on which dictates just how much freedom to race to win the Satellite Teams have.
I've said it before.... don't forget the Factory Teams are all about Business and Money. And no-one stumps up the big bucks like Repsol, without there being some very big strings attached.
I think if you believe that Bradl will be getting the same opportunity to compete as the Repsol pair, then I think I'd like to sell you some real estate while the tide is out.

jjthekid46 - Unregistered

March 28, 2013 5:20 PM

@TalentFan

And you honestly think Repsol have the power to dictate to Honda of all teams how much support Bradl does or doesn't get ??? I think you are mistaken Honda for a back marker cash strapped team. The smaller the team, the more sponsors have influence since the small teams depend on the sponsors to survive. Big teams like Honda aren't dependent on sponsors to compete. Otherwise Yamaha would have gone under without a title sponsor. Honda don't have to give Bradl factory support. They do so now cause they felt like it, and want to see if he is up to the task of fighting for wins and podiums.You are still not able to explain why in the past on several occasions satellite Honda's have beaten Repsol Honda riders. Because according to your theory this should be impossible, yet it has clearly happened before.

Realist

March 28, 2013 6:10 PM

@ jjthekid

Pretty solid deduction man.

@ eminusx

Soo....Rossi's average results (along with nearly every other Ducati rider) weren't enough? We now need Dovi to produce average results for people to show how problematic the GP is?

TalentFan

March 28, 2013 8:49 PM

@ jjthekid46

Yes, I think Repsol DO have some influence with Honda, and that Honda have due consideration for their Title Sponsor, & what Repsol expectations are for their investment in HRC's Factory Team (which must be expensive). This would hardly be unusual, and a sponsor investing the most money, can reasonably expect that they will get better results than a satellite team with a 'lesser' sponsor. And you'd expect Honda to understand and appreciate they have an obligation to try to match Repsols expectations - that'd be a pretty standard business understanding. And lets not forget the reality - to these guys, this IS business, not sport.
The only query is over just how this is all managed.

Jerry - Unregistered

March 28, 2013 9:07 PM

Talentfan, repsol is not the one calling the shots at Honda it is a collaboration. You said repsol can expect to have better results than lcr and you're correct. In fact that's all they CAN do is expect. Repsol has no say so whatsoever as to what goes on between lcr and Honda. As the title sponsor, they should expect their team to outperform the satellite teams but as history has shown on multiple occasions and you still have yet to comment on, it doesn't always work out that way.

Codger

March 29, 2013 3:07 PM

Whoever it is that's calling the shots you have to admit that they messed up last year. Yamaha had the most consistant rider and won the Title. Honda had far more wins and had to share them around. Will they put that right this year?

lad - Unregistered

March 29, 2013 10:03 PM

Yes Repsol do have teh power. They are investing almost a billion dollar pa after all!! So don't come here and claim Repsol have no power!!

jjthekid46 - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 2:00 AM

@lad:


The question isn't whether Repsol have any power within Motogp, what is up for debate is whether have Respol have the power to dictate to Honda who get's what. It is a bit much to assume Repsol have the power to tell Honda who gets a factory bike and who doesn't. Repsol don't own Honda, and Honda certainly don't win because of Respol. Repsol pays Honda to have their name plastered on the bike while Honda does the winning........

jjthekid46 - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 2:00 AM

........What should also be remembered is that at the end of 2003 when Rossi left Honda for Yamaha, Gibernau emerging as Rossi's closest competitor and being spanish to boot, wasn't transfered into the Repsol team. And while none of us know for sure why, it is easy to guess .He was already being supplied with factory machinery by HRC, so there was no reason for him to move teams(riding on a bike sponsored by one of Repsols rival companies no less, Castrol).

According to some here such a scenario would not be possible, since Repsol supposedly has the "power" to deny Honda riders outside of their team factory spec machinery. Obviously enough they don't have such power.

repsolyamaha - Unregistered

March 30, 2013 2:49 AM

what an off topic discussion for this article in the preceding posts.. repsol and honda, but entertaining nonetheless. getting back to the crutch, there are a few reasons for him not going to the factory team but one mainly: Rossi. for all the people who are upset about crutch not making the factory squad, ask yourselves this question.. would you rather have a guy who hasn't yet won a race or had a pole in motogp or a 7-time motogp champ on your team? seems like a no brainer to me..

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