MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP: Dovizioso raises bar for Ducati


'It was nice to have a good feeling with the bike when I tried to push hard with a new tyre in the last laps' - Andrea Dovizioso

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prof-x - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 11:22 AM

as good as it is to see Dovi in 4th, you guys need to realize that Casey's best race lap time in 2008 could have qualified him 4th on the grid. Limited grip means nothing can be confirmed until a race where the tires are yielding more potential. Should be interesting to see how the Ducati's rear tire wears... Did Ducati move it closer to Honda's configuration? If it's still back there then Dovi might have rear tire issues at the end of the race. One of the commentators talked about Bridgestone offering even softer tires, seems like the same ethos that governs F1 is motivating the tire selection in MotoGP, look forward to slower and slower times if this is the case.

If Casey's circuit lap record stands at Qatar after this race....

Elton - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 11:41 AM

@Codger

Was Casey's 4th position in the title the bikes true level though? I mean the very next year the supposed GOAT finished down in 7th, and backed it up with a 6 th after Ducati built him about 50 chassis variations. I think it's been clear since 2007 Stoner was pushing that bike far above its 'true level'. Anyways, hopefully Dovi can get a red bike at the pointy end again. Dovi has impressed me since he left Honda.

Majorscruff

April 07, 2013 12:11 PM

I like how most people are so wrapped up in pointing out how Dovi must be better then Rossi they seem to have overlooked that he also managed to out quali marquez, the super kid.

It's great to see Ducati and Dovi getting on well together, but lets not get too carried away just yet.

RocketR1

April 07, 2013 12:35 PM

Watching the qualifying yesterday you could plainly see the Bike still needs alot of work,Still looks un-settled in the corners.
Hayden Said Dovi worked hard all winter and spent alot of time at the Factory in the off season,The funny thing is he has never been a great qualifier,Still think it will be Dovi,Cal,Rossi and Marquez for third place...thats if everyone makes it through the first corner.

jambop - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 1:31 PM

There are going to be a lot of very disappointed people on here after the race if they are basing Dovi's race finish on his qualifying time. Look at the time sheets people! He does not have the race pace even in qualifying his best time, which was good ,was his only lap that bettered any of Rossi's full laps. He is not going to be able to stop and put a new boot on during the race! If his times in practice are what he hopes for in the race he is goosed if he can go faster but did not, he does not know his tyre life when the the race pace WILL BE low 1m 56's with some mid and high 1m57's he has not set these times consistantly in practice. He will finish behind Bradl!

Claes

April 07, 2013 2:04 PM

Hi
#Codger
We always know that slower riders are as fast before the times start to drop, so why bother when I know it does not matter. Rossi is still fast, but the last 2 years show that he is only fast on a perfect bike, and he can not fix bikes
Cheers Claes

Codger

April 07, 2013 2:18 PM

@ Elton....I think so. Nicky got a few 4ths, and as you say Casey put it higher. By risking everything though.

@ Claes, perfect bike? Not sure. He needs to feel competive. Remember, he caught and passed Casey when he DID feel comfortable.
Don't know if he can fix bikes, if he can consistently finish in front of his team mate, yes. If in front of Hondas, yes.

some1 - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 2:42 PM

Dovi could win on Ducati if could manage to handle a softer rear tire for the whole race.


That is how Ducati win races since L. Capirossi, Bayliss on 990cc and Stoner on 800cc.

jambop - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 2:53 PM

You only have a choise of the hard or soft option though! I think most of the bikes would use the softer tyre if it lasted the race its a no brainer! Question is will it?

billace - Unregistered

April 07, 2013 3:56 PM

Codger,

You said that Casey had to "risk everything". I agree and its interesting to note that Casey had more wins at Ducati than DNF's and had more finishes where he didn't win then victories.

That tells me that most of the time other riders "risked everything" and came out ahead of him. Bottom line is that is how races in MotoGP are won. If you are not willing to do that you are not able to win.

To me that is the big question mark with Rossi. Dovi is doing that and making the bike look better. Jorge and Dani are doing that and setting a pace that will be hard to reach, let alone maintain. In all his years in GP I would say that Vale never consistently had to push to that level to win, he's facing the toughest competition of his life. Jorge certainly looks better than him but like Rossi of the past, Jorge knows he is better than him.

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