MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP: Crutchlow 'frustrating' fifth after factory fight


“After the way I had been performing in practice and qualifying, finishing fifth is a little bit frustrating” – Cal Crutchlow.

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Realist

April 09, 2013 12:28 AM

@ pp916

Again, this discussion is not, nor should not be viewed as a Cal bashing session. He rode a good race and did what he could. It's the ridiculous assertion that a Factory M1 would have made the difference that spawned this debate. Cal's bike is fast (obviously) and just as capable as a current Factory bike. The issues with his bike apply to all of the M1's (I suppose you missed Rossi's bike dealing with the wheelie issue when the race started). The problem for Cal is him more than anything else. I hate to continue to bring Dovi up in this, but that is proof in the pudding using a rider that is more or less the same caliber as Crutchlow, just better on the brakes, better at protecting his lines and more consistent.

Realist

April 09, 2013 12:31 AM

@ pp916 cont.

As far as my personal bike knowledge and race ability goes, it's really irrelevant. I can tell you that I raced an 848 in a regional race class for the last two years and regularly travel the states of California and Nevada to attend track days and superbike schools, but it really wouldn't mean much to you in the end. I'm no pro rider, but I know a thing or two about set-up, and what is ailing Crutchlow happens in all race venues (i.e..talent making the biggest difference among equal or nearly equal bikes).

Realist

April 09, 2013 12:35 AM
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Lastly, to the poster who brought up Crutchlow's run through the ranks last season, it was a good run, and hat's off to him. He was battling CRT's most of that run, so is it really a relevant comparison when we're discussing fighting with the top 5-6 riders on the grid? Of course he was going to out pace the least capable bikes/riders on the grid. The fun usually stopped once he got to Dovi.

Lad - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 3:05 AM

@ Realist

Well said mate. It is all about talent and nothing else to make the difference. I could agree with Cal when he said he had speed disadvantage compared to Hondas, but again he did a good job too keep the margin to them. but with rossi overtaking him...It was not the case, Rossi is just too big for any rider to match. I am 100% sure that Vale will win the title this year and probably the year after. He made a rookie like mistake at the beginning and that showed how much impatient and hungry he is now. if Yamaha didn't trust him, they would never sign him back. Rossi has done everything, has won everything you name it, he won it even on satellite bike( factory backed, just like Marco and Bradl) and now if he wins as #2 rider... then there will be another page written by rossi in the history of motorcycle racing. I just relax, sit back and enjoy the show. Rossi knows what he is going for better than anybody else. He does not need speculations, or fans to doubt him or praise him.

swarsige - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 10:58 AM

I don't know why Cal is upset he said he'd be happy with top 5, and after qualifying that yamaha would prefer two factory bikes in 1st and 2nd and that's exactly what happened. Seriously though Rossi had a nightmare on a bad bike last year and beat Cal this year Cal thinks he's gonna beat Rossi despite Rossi being on a factory Yam wtf?. The way Rossi blew Cal into the weeds and left him out of contention was totally dismissive, He's miles from Rossi perhaps he learnt it last night?? Who knows ? Needs to realise that 5th is still pretty good.. After all Rossi suckered Bradl in completely.. ps him goading Rossi makes him look like a total numbskull. Did he really think it was Rossi that had the issue and not the ducati..again wtf?

Hemmy - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 11:05 AM

@ Realist

Im sorry, but with statements like this.......'Cal's bike is fast (obviously) and just as capable as a current Factory bike.'.......i very much doubt that you have ever raced at all.

Do you seriously think that the tech3 is just as capable as the factory M1?

Do you think that the factory have busted their guts all last season and during the off season to not take the M1 to the next level?

If the sat bikes are just as capable as the factory bikes as you suggest, then maybe you should tell the top dogs at the factories. They can then relax and stop spending ther millions on developement and support.

Geeeez, some people on here amaze me.

RocketR1

April 09, 2013 11:28 AM

@Number46
As a fan i can understand why you want your rider on the best bike but from Yamaha's point of veiw they already have the two most popular riders in MotoGP so theres no need of spending a pile of money on a third rider.

RocketR1

April 09, 2013 11:35 AM

@Hemmy
How did he get on the front row of the grid if his bike was so far behind the factory ones?
Mabey Crutchlow should work on race setups and Race pace.
Same engine,Chassis and electronics..The biggest difference from Factory Yamaha is the Caliber of Riders.

Hemmy - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 11:48 AM

@ RocketR1

I didnt say that the tech3 is soooo far behind the factory M1, buit the fact is that it IS behind the factory M1's.

Of course the factory M1 is a better bike (although realist may disagree), but Cal qualified 2nd because he showed raw pace and huge balls to get it there.

Its not at all the same bike like you suggest. All the info is there for you to go and read up on and check for yourself.

Which makes Cal's speed and performance all the more impressive than it was.

But yes i agree, talent and pure skill does make a difference of course. But until any rider gets a top factory bike with top factory support, then we never know what a riders full potential is.

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