MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP: Crutchlow 'frustrating' fifth after factory fight


“After the way I had been performing in practice and qualifying, finishing fifth is a little bit frustrating” – Cal Crutchlow.

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Realist

April 09, 2013 10:58 PM
Last Edited 563 days ago

@ Hemmy

You are extremely short sighted and focusing on the minutia of my statement. Yes, I seriously think that a T3 bike is just as capable. I never, ever said that it was equal, but the differences are more minor than major. The T3 bike is the best bike on the grid outside of a factory M1 or RCV, is capable of front row starts/poles, has the same engine/chassis/electronics package as a factory bike, etc. There is nothing that would lead me to believe otherwise, and Dovi's performance on the lesser version of the T3 bike last year only bolsters my statement. The impetus for this entire discussion is based on people here thinking that Cal on an M1 would automatically put him ahead of MM/CC/VR and possibly JL. It's ridiculous! That T3 bike is good enough to be on the podium any/every race (not to be confused with “win”). The biggest difference between Rossi/Lorenzo on an M1 and Crutch on a T3 is talent. Simply..talent!

Realist

April 09, 2013 10:59 PM

@ TalentFan

I agree that the M1 is better than a T3, but I would bet money that Rossi and Lorenzo could win on one. Rossi's riding style is very different than Crutchlow's, and it is my belief that style makes a huge difference.

@ Don-R

Interesting point, and one that I didn't consider before.

Realist

April 09, 2013 11:00 PM
Last Edited 563 days ago

@ Busa Boy

Daft statement, no? Why would they want a works bike? Sooner updates, MORE PAY and more support (plus the prestige of being a “factory” rider). None of that necessarily translates to more wins/podiums/championships however. Again, it has already been established (even by the rider being discussed, Cal Crutchlow, himself), that they run the same basic package as a factory bike (engine/chassis/electronics). The differences are minor (maybe brakes, suspension options, etc.) RIGHT NOW! Later in the year that won't be the case. I'm curious whether or not the T3 bikes run the same suspension as the M1's. Anybody know?

Lad - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 11:38 PM

@TalentFan

lol, "lying to us"... that was great!!

If what you said can makeup for your lack of understanding so be it. Did you see where Cal choked it?? and how? it was not due to speed, the exact same thing happened many many times last year against Dovi. factory ride cannot compensate Cal's lack of skills compared to Vale, jorge, MM, Dani and Dovi(on equal machine.

@ Busa Boy

Yes, when Rossi won 2001 title he wasn't factory rider, he was on Nastro Azzurri satellite team. please get it right.

Lad - Unregistered

April 09, 2013 11:52 PM

@ TalentFan

I say if rossi were on T3, he would be backmarker.

Now tell me what was the difference between Dovi and Cal last year? mabe Dovi had secretly received special parts right?? lol

Cal stayed almost in a same distance before Rossi took over. If you so much know about what part exactly was different to Rossi's bike, i will appreciate if you can tell us, and also if you can explain why Rossi was slower on straight vs Hondas compared to Cal's T3???

what you are saying is total nonsense. Cal's average top speed and qualy time confirms that his bikes has no speed disadvantage compared to factory rides. Give Cal factory ride and he won't do any better than Spies. Factory ride doesn't necessarily means you can be better. Dovi for instance, he was on factory Honda, but he did better on T3.

amakusa

April 10, 2013 2:11 AM

I would say the difference between Cal n Rossi bikes are settings (everything from suspension to mapping) and the brakes. Rossi didnt really outbrake Cal on the pass but they probably brake about the same time. Rossi's brakes prevailed whilst Cal's couldnt slow it down to corner speed hence he had to keep it upright. Suspension settings are some of world's best kept secrets, mapping defines strategy.

Lad - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 3:30 AM

@ amakusa

Forget the 9 times champion. I say Dovi, he destroyed Cal on equal machinery. Remember how frustrated Cal was trying to brake late and choked it? the same thing happened with Rossi. Watch 2009 Catalunya and see what Rossi does best. Put Cal on Repsol ad he will win nothing, reminds me of Biaggi. Now everybody switched on Cal, the poor lad is just doing his job. Remember Cal fiished below Rossi by 12 points. says a lot!!

Hemmy - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 8:29 AM

@ Realist

What bizzare comments you make. Yoiu say that the tech 3 bikes.....'has the same engine/chassis/electronics package as a factory bike, etc. There is nothing that would lead me to believe otherwise'.

It is not the same engine/chassis/electronics package at all.

You even then go on to admit the factory bike is better (obviously), so what do you think is different then?

What coverage have you been watching? Not the BBC then, where the interviews with Cal and Herve state that they are the only true 'non-factory' bikes out there and the only team that does not have the support of the factory like every other prototype team. Herve states himself that he feels that if Yamaha gave Cal more support then he's confident he'd run with at least closer to the top guys.

Not the Eurosport coverage eother, where Spalders states that the tech 3 bikes are BEST the same bikes that Lorenzo and Spies STARTED last season with, if not EARLIER! You do know who Spalders is right?

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