MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP: Crutchlow 'frustrating' fifth after factory fight


“After the way I had been performing in practice and qualifying, finishing fifth is a little bit frustrating” – Cal Crutchlow.

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Hemmy - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 8:32 AM

To suggest that Cal would not do any better on a better bike with more support, and that Rossi and Lorenzxo would still win with a lesser spec bike and less factory support is just pure nonsense.

If that was thew case, then please tell the factories to stop wasting their money because you obviously know better.

Your dislike for Cal shows even more than your lack of knowledge and understand of the sport and racing in general.

a fan - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 9:16 AM

Don't get me wrong.If you look closely,Rossi use a good corner entry at turn 16 and maximizing corner speed before main straight.But,Cal use the same line The Honda boys.That what make cal lack of straight speed.For me,Cal just giviing an excuses.He don't maximizing corner speed like Rossi did.If you look of the weekend,Cal faster than Rossi.For me they were no excuse for Cal.He deserve t3 only.

TalentFan

April 10, 2013 10:20 AM

@ Lad - Have you ever ridden a motorcycle on track?
Its not JUST about the top speed. Its very much about HOW FAST you GET to the top speed.

Its hard to pass the Honda's as they have the best drive out of a turn, and get to their top speed faster and sooner along the straight. So - they pull away from the T3, and are maintaining their top speed for longer before they have to brake. Rossi's factory bike as well.

That equals covering ground faster through machinery performance. Rossi rode it well for sure, but..

If someone doesn't understand the fundamentals, then banging on & slagging CC (and flying in the face of what real experts like Neil Spalding & others say) is just going to make you look daft.

TalentFan

April 10, 2013 10:29 AM

@ Lad
As for the Dovi v CC thing. Dovi did a great job and is vastly experienced. Even so, CC often caught AD running faster and couldn't pass.

Dovi is considered 2nd only to DP as the best starter on the grid. He is also considered to be just about THE hardest guy to pass on the brakes - its a very strong area of his game. Note that Hayden said the same after Qatar - he caught AD but could not get by.

If you have the same bike, then its next to impossible to get by on the straight. if the guy then brakes SO late you can't get him INTO the corner - then you cant use your corner speed as you are held up by the guy.

Cal has a problem passing for sure. But its not all down to CC, but to the characteristics of the bike and of those he's riding against. Just to say he's c*ap like you do is childishly simplistic & unpleasant IMO.

TalentFan

April 10, 2013 10:35 AM

CC needs to be a better starter though. When he headed Dovi, it was shown that he had the speed to pull away. When behind, CC could catch Dovi and not get past him without a proper do-or-die banzai lunge.

Cal has work to do for sure. You can bet he knows it too. Can he work on his weak areas? Well, he's shown huge improvement since he got on a MotoGP bike, so it has to be possible that he can.

But to try and say he doesn't have a machinery / team / budget disadvantage to overcome as well as 4 seriously good competitors to get on the box is absolute drivel.

Lad - if you need educating about acceleration and why top speed isn't EVERYTHING, just part of the answer, check out drag racing. Often the winner will post a lower terminal speed than his rival - he won cos he got to his terminal speed earlier and held it for longer.

Codger

April 10, 2013 1:17 PM

Cal should stop worrying about what he hasn't got and be proud of his achievements on the bike he has. (remember Dovi's brakes were 'better than his')

According to Burgess Works and Tech3 are running the same engine and the differences between the bikes isn't enough to make much difference. Cal showed this in practise. Cal relax, you're doing fine.

R6Ryder - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 2:02 PM

From what I've read "just like everyone on here we only know what we hear or read as I doubt any of youall or myself work as a mechanic in the MotoGP paddock" the tech 3 bike has the same brakes , similar suspension (all the riders use different spring rates and damping ) the frame is a WORKS Yamaha frame tried and tested to work! The engine is the same as I don't think yam builds tech 3 engines any differently. The factory team might have a slightly different electronics package. I think the biggest diff is the rider and next to the rider I think its the crew. Factory team has the best ecu wizards, the ohlins and brembo techs nearby at all times. But I saw both rossi and cal do 336 kph most laps. Rossi uses the slip better and brakes a little better on race day.

Busa Boy. - Unregistered

April 10, 2013 3:15 PM

There are a few people here that are wasted in their job.They should be on the Yamaha development team as they obviously think they know more about the bike than a current Motogp rider.

TalentFan

April 10, 2013 4:13 PM

@ R6Ryder
"the frame is a WORKS Yamaha frame tried and tested to work!"
Kenny Roberts Snr used to ride on a WORKS Yamaha frame too. Doesn't mean its as good as the stuff today though does it?
T3's frame is 'Works' yes. It's also a couple of generations (as in start of last season's, not end of last season or 2013 version).
No doubt its very close and very very good. That doesn't mean AS good. I believe they call this phenomenon 'Development' - which tends to mean 'improved' or why introduce the new stuff and then keep on using it?
Why do people insist on using a small part of the whole (of what's available to us outsiders even) data as facts to try to force & 'prove' a flawed conclusion?

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