MotoGP » Control ECU confirmed, testing tightened for MotoGP 2014


Control ECU will go ahead in MotoGP 2014, testing loophole removed to avoid repeat of this year's private Austin test.

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Paddles - Unregistered

April 11, 2013 11:15 PM

That's exactly it talentfan, the way things are at the moment, the duopoly of two big corporations is actually stifling engineering innovation. Nobody else can afford to compete with them and so nobody will even bother. What the sport and even the enitre industry of motorcycling needs, is guys like Britten from NZ (back in the dark ages) to be given the opportunity to be able to build their own machines and possibly come up with the next big breakthrough in technology. At the moment the world motorcycle engineering talent pool is simply being overshadowed by this duopoly and it's a bad thing for the entire industry.

TalentFan

April 12, 2013 9:56 AM

@ Paddles. I agree, & have said this when supporting the CRT thing several times. CRT's are slagged cos they aren't as fast as a factory bike - so 'fans' want more factory bikes and tech - even though no other Factory will enter, and that the economy and costs mean even Yamaha are struggling. So this CAN'T happen anyway.

HRC/Yam have now 'developed' the MotoGP bike into a dead-end - employing tech like pneumatic valves & carbon brakes that will NEVER make it to Production.

MotoGP needs genuine racing & competition, so we need to get rid of the really expensive and pointless stuff that are ONLY of use on a fixed known Lap (see my earlier post). Then we can get new teams & sponsors keen to enter a MGP series where they have a real chance to compete on a level playing field.

prof-x - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 5:19 AM

the control ecu is doing nothing for moto2 guys, its not gonna do anything for Moto1, except give more control to the people making the ECU :) Just like the tires and TC for the guys that manage the teams. Just ask Laverty about his TC last year, or how Ben couldnt get his bike to work, ask Ducati about their struggles with the tires. Its all bull, and really only appeals to people who believe what they are told at face value.

amakusa

April 13, 2013 8:51 AM

@Talentfan when all the bikes are standardised, the variable component will then be the riders. Richer teams will have the best riders/teams and will still dominate. Rider and team salaries escalate to the point of where the rnd costs are at the moment (see: English football) and at the end of it the costs will still be high. And private teams are sponsor driven, those sponsors want to be on tv. Unless the cameras are panned to the backmarkers, these teams will be dead too unless they have the money to recruit the best.

TalentFan

April 13, 2013 3:37 PM
Last Edited 624 days ago

@ amakusa. I can see your points - but something has to be done as right now MGP is a hugely expensive 3-tier, non-competitive MESS, with only Honda & Yamaha's factory bikes actually competitive for race wins.

No other Mfr's want to touch MGP with a bargepole, and I'm concerned that (with the current rules making it next to impossible for them to develop) that Audi will yank Ducati in a season or 2 as well. Yamaha are struggling also.

Its unsustainable - no depth of field and silly costs. The only ones who like it like this really are Honda, cos it all plays to their strengths.

The riders SHOULD be the difference - its what the fans want to see is WHO is the best, after a FAIR fight. Sponsors of CRT's (& Sats) get screwed now - with NO HOPE of hardly ANY TV exposure or kudos.

prof-x - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 9:58 PM

talentfan said:
"No other Mfr's want to touch MGP with a bargepole"

So I guess Suzuki, who is currently testing a full factory prototype bike to come back to Mtotogp in 2014 season, and Kawasaki, who may not have a factory supported team, is supplying NGM Mobile Forward Racing with Kawasaki motors.... please gets your facts straight.

amakusa

April 14, 2013 3:53 AM
Last Edited 623 days ago

@Talentfan I agree the current state of motogp is unsustainable, but thats because of limited cashflow compared to costs. However think more can be done on Dorna's part to get money. I am a layman in terms of marketing, but if u see the marketing models of other sports, motogp's marketing is way behind. How often do we see riders/ teams being showcased on tv worldwide? Look at English Football again, look at the brand of Manchester United. There are marketing/ merchandise for it all over the world. We dont get that same agressive marketing in motogp. Why would sponsors want to choose motogp over football then? There are many more examples i can add but really Dorna has to do more instead of tinkering with rules every year.

amakusa

April 14, 2013 4:42 AM
Last Edited 623 days ago

Further to my post earlier, its also worth to note Yamaha launched a moped in Indonesia having Lorenzo ride around a moped racetrack on stock standard along with local riders and home hero Doni Tata ex 250cc motogp rider. Like in motogp Lorenzo dominated but the bike cut through the turns like knife over butter, without a flinch. Doni was visibly slipping n sliding the bike trying to catch up 2-3 bike lengths away. Great show, good promotion of motogp, by the very manufacturers some say is ruining the sport. Cant blame them for having money, can we? They work for it, they make bikes, market it, sell it. Honda has done its fair share. Have we seen any satellite or crt teams doing it? Any promotion from Dorna?

TalentFan

April 14, 2013 8:30 PM

@ prof-x

Suzuki only want to come back initially to test (my guess is that if & unless their bike showed very high potential they'd scrap a return pronto - they know the season test restrictions won't let them close the gap otherwise).

Kwak are only talking motors - thats NOT a full factory team effort now is it?

So I think my statement holds water - & will do if & until Suzuki actually DO return full-time. I don't think they will under the current system, unless they are certain that the rules will be changing to level the playing field.

Supplying motors or partial support is NOT full factory participation prof-x. Perhaps you need to get your facts straight?

prof-x - Unregistered

April 15, 2013 12:09 AM

@talent fan

"Supplying motors or partial support is NOT full factory particpation"

Oh I have my facts straight. you may want to reread it .I never said Kawasaki was given full factory support

but the FACT that kawaski is a main line manufacture suppling motors to Forward ctr team in moto gp may not say much but it does say the are involved in motogp as I stated, fact!

and Suzuki, a main line mfr is coming back to motogp in 2014 with a full factory supported team as it reported, and all over the media. fact!
or havent you heard?

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