MotoGP » 500cc/MotoGP: First and second race wins

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MarquezFan - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 11:45 AM

It's clear that Marquez is a very very special talent whi will continue to break records but we must also rememeber he has come straight in on arguably the best bike on the grid and that coincidentally the 2nd race happened to be a completely new track to all riders which levelled the playing field, makes me wonder what Casey Stoner could've achieved had he been given a repsol at the start of 2006!

Rossifumi-ng - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 1:18 PM

Completely agree on the Marquez comment. Not taking anything away from him as he had a flawless weekend in Austin, but you must also remember that rookies werent always allowed to jump straight on a factory machine so this would have delayed some of the riders getting their first wins.

Sidney from Sidney - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 2:30 PM


As a Stoner fan I will tell you exactly what he would've done if he had a factory bike in 06. He would've crashed as often as he did in that particular year. Stoner didn't come into his own up until the next year when he arrived at Ducati.

jjthekid46 - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 2:50 PM

@ Rossifumi:

I think you will find that rookies were always allowed to join factory teams apart from 2010-2012. It was a very pointless rule, as factory teams could have always supplied their satellite teams factory machinery anyway. During those 3 years there were no rookies that joined that were good enough to be given factory machinery straight away.

And as Sidney has stated Casey would have crashed just as much. From the start of his career in 2001-2006, Casey was known as a fast rider but a perennial crasher, and was not giving factory machinery when he moved up to Motogp simply because he had won few races and no world championships prior to Motogp in comparison to Pedrosa, who cleaned up and won 3 titles prior to moving up.

tomcol - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 3:53 PM

SO MM has 5 more races to equal Kenny Roberts total of 7 races for 2 wins. Somehow think he will achieve that with ease. Interesting statistics but would say MM has a harder task relatively speaking compared to Roberts who s works Yamaha was up against a lot of private RG500s and even a few bored out Yamaha 350,s


May 01, 2013 10:12 PM

Yeah well, there's no way in heck anyone can prove that Stoner would have crashed had he been on a factory bike in 2006. Having a satellite bike like he did and wanting to win like he did, he probably had to push too much to achieve what he wanted.

IanM - Unregistered

May 01, 2013 10:53 PM

So what's with the couple of years missing from counting this so called 'modern era'.
Including 1973 for Saarinen would give Jaarno a statistic of 1,2 which would put him top of the table above anyone else ever. Which would be only right and true surely? Also, Interesting to see Doohans stats, would never guess its the same guy who became such a dominat force later on

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