MotoGP » Chassis evaluation for Lorenzo, Rossi

“It was important to try to understand the new chassis” - Valentino Rossi.

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CRT - Unregistered

May 07, 2013 1:10 PM

Guna - Unregistered

No point in useless debates... Accept the fact that M1's development around JL is not upto the mark against rampaging honda, past two races have proven this.
Yamaha needs to claim back their supremacy in braking and acceleration

Yamaha has NEVER had an advantage in acceleration. Rossi's and JB's biggest complaint about the M1 since joining Yamaha in 2004 was the lack of grunt out of slow corners.

We also have another "let's blame Lorenzo" groupie in the mix. Too much fun.


May 07, 2013 1:27 PM

@Guna "Yamaha seriously lost some grip in their bike dominance in trio years of his absence..'
Really 1 WC and on their way to a second WC Yamaha have lost nothing but Rossi have, the bike have been developed acc to the people that race it ie JL, Rossi can't develop his own bum:)
Cheers Claes

Billace - Unregistered

May 07, 2013 1:36 PM

The difference between Honda and Yamaha can be tied directly to budget. Honda has 20x the resources and 100x the revenue to support development. The seamless shift gearbox was adapted from car racing after all.

Yamaha cannot compete and when they tried to reel in spending the then #1 rider walked.

I think the engine rule is Yamaha's biggest problem. Back in 06 Vale had an over rev button to allow him to rev higher when attempting a pass or improve gearing and in the end it resulted in a few blown engines and cost them the title.

Honda's massive R&D allows them to make a more powerful and stronger engine that Yamaha simply cannot match. that is a bigger difference than any slick transmission when your engines have to last more than 3 rounds each. if things were closer last year it would have been difficult for Jorge to win having to nurse his remaining engines over the second half of the year.

Honda reliability FTW.

CRT - Unregistered

May 07, 2013 1:36 PM

From Rossi himself post Jerez test

“I already try this chassis in the test in March and it was bad conditions but more or less I understand it was the same and I would be continuing with the standard one for the first three races. Today was a good chance to try the new one more deeply in perfect weather and make a direct comparison on the same tyres and at the end there was something better in the front but it was a bit more difficult in acceleration. So we will continue with the standard one that I use already in the first three races. For sure we hope for a bigger step but this is not the case.”

According to the "fans" here he just needs a better front end, yet he rejected the new frame that gave him a better front end.

The M1 has always been a corner speed machine. A sweet handling slug if you will. The problem for Yamaha is getting out of the corners (always has been). This is why Honda was sucessful over the last two races.


May 07, 2013 1:37 PM

Love it:)
and whats the problem. There is no problem with the Yamaha if Dovi was still on one we would have 3-4 Yamaha's up there. Just because Rossi lost the will of pushing does not mean the Yamaha is at fault, ohhhh now I get it Rossi fans are now blaming Yamaha for not being perfect so that's why Rossi is not winning, sorry missed that, lucky for Yamaha that Rossi is back because now they can start developing the bike in to a WC winner, ohhh it's already a WC winner:) silly me
Cheers Claes

lolly badpigion - Unregistered

May 07, 2013 1:43 PM

Rossi super popular
casey superfast
jorge super consistant
dani super developer

the last one is not talked about much, but just see how important is that and people say dani is wast of a ride???


May 07, 2013 1:43 PM

Yamaha new chassi, its hard to develop something that is that close to perfect.
Yamaha cutting cost so their No1 rider left:) He left because he was not No1 rider anymore:)
and Rossi lost in 2006 because he did not score enough points:)
Cheers Claes

CRT - Unregistered

May 07, 2013 1:50 PM

Funny how none of the Rossi fans blame Rossi for the development of the 2006 M1. You konw, the M1 frame that had so much chatter they had to revert back to the 2005 frame?

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