MotoGP » Marc VDS 'looking at MotoGP' for 2014

"We've spoken to a number of people about the options available, including the Yamaha engines and the Honda RCV production racer"

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hrc2627 - Unregistered

May 15, 2013 1:22 PM

Why dont dorna just put their foot down and just say for 2015 or whatever were going full proddy racing or full prototype.
At the moment the series is just running in circles trying to avoid the reality nobody has enough sponsorship bacoing and wont get any unless theres a chance a good riders on competitive machinery get a chance to compete. Theres and the whole reason is the fact that only 2 factory teams have won a race since stoner left ducati and no satellites teams have won since Melandri 06.
Whos gonna get any decent decent marketing out this failing series, Yamaha cant even get a title sponsor at the moment so what chance does a team with limited coverage gonna get then nothing as it is.

Ryan - Unregistered

May 15, 2013 1:22 PM

All well and good in theory, but if the likes of Suzuki are going to have to buy-out / team-up with an existing team to get on the grid, what chance to Marc VDS have?

sodesu - Unregistered

May 15, 2013 1:33 PM

Couldn't they just do like F1 then? The factories could be obliged to sell the same spec engines as they use themselves, but then any consumer teams would have to build their own chassis. The problem now, as someone pointed out, is that even if you'd build a great chassis you'd still get a lesser spec engine and be behind the factory teams anyway.

hrc2627 - Unregistered

May 15, 2013 1:39 PM

I think the best way to set up the technical rules would be as follows:
1. All manufacturers should provide minimum 4 engines available to teams and a max of 8
2. Factory teams can have max of 2 bikes
3. Across the board spec ecu
4. 10 ecu maps per rider availabe per each engine allocation
5. 8 engines per rider per season
6. Engines supplied by manufacturers capped to say somewher between $500, 000 -$750, 000 per season
7. Factory spec engines must be the same as engines supplied to independent teams

Rules along these lines are whats needed engine amd electronics costs are whats killing motorcycle racing today above BSB level sbk to a lesser extent independent teams are lacking two things horsepower and electronics just leon Camier and Johnny Rae why there bikes arent competitive everywhere they go.

sodesu - Unregistered

May 15, 2013 2:21 PM

hrc2627, exactly! One of the few things that actually work in F1, where you have seriously competitive customer teams like McLaren and Red Bull (although Renault no longer have a factory team - that's actually become another competitive customer team in Lotus now), and with the likes of Sauber and Force India too occasionally able to seriously challenge their factory counterpart. I think this could work much better than the CRT rule if worked out properly.

Only thing is, with it being done before and all it seems too obvious to never have been considered. I can only assume at least one manufacturer has vetoed it...


May 15, 2013 2:58 PM

I'm perfectly happy to see Scott excel in the moto2 category. As mentioned above and everywhere ad nauseum, there are only four bikes in motogp that anyone will see on camera away from the grid. I'm sure Elias wishes he'd never bothered. Bradley will too.
Moto2 is great, especially as the weight rule is in place to help Scott. He could be a multiple world champion at this level, realistically.
Motogp? Nowhere.
It sure as hell beats working for a living.


May 15, 2013 3:42 PM

i just think this is a hard decision. if scott is going to get the coin, crack on and do a couple of years and set yourself up.

but to go to crt and know fine well you are always going to be mid pack? at best?

or try and get a w sbk ride and have the realistic chance to say you are world champion???


May 15, 2013 3:43 PM

Cant we go back to the days when there were fewer rules? Scrap electronics, if the engines are too powerful to stay on the track without help, then reduce the power, or reduce the number of gears.
As a bonus, the tyres would then work as well.
Scrap carbon brake discs, they don't use them in the wet so no need for them in the dry.
Scrap the asymmetric tyres and reduce the number of hard and soft options.
The racing was ok when everyone rode customer bikes and the lucky few just got trick bits from the factories, which they had to fit themselves.
Grids of 30 plus with battles all the way down to the last man.
I'm all for progress and technology but we have passed the point were it helped the racing, now it's killing it.

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