MotoGP » Le Mans: Crutchlow - Coughing blood to podium champagne

“I was lying on the floor with blood in the helmet and didn't know what the situation was” - Cal Crutchlow.

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99 Crystal Ball. - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 5:23 PM

See Ya.
I only now spotted your later comment mentioning Redding and Espargaro.
Ok,you are entitled to your opinion.But out of curiosity i would like to ask on what are you basing your opinion that Redding and Espargaro would be doing better than Crutchlow?
The only guys ahead of him in the championship are Marquez,Lorenzo and Pedro..Do you really think Redding and Espargaro would be beating them on a regular basis?
Not a snowballs chance in hell!

jerginz - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 5:24 PM

Most of you still aren't getting it. why is it that the only current race-winners this and every season (pedro, jlo, marquez) have never even sat on a satellite bike their entire careers? because they have the most talent and got straight to the factory rides!! the satellite bikes are NOT feeders for the factories like they are said to be!! with the exception of casey stoner, who has had significant improvement from stepping up to a factory bike from a satellite? no one!! dovi did just as well at tech 3 as he did with repsol. spies did better on tech3 than he did in 2012!! every rider who is on a satellite bike right now is there because they simply aren't as talented as the factory riders. Yamaha would have given crutch a factory seat if they thought he could contend for a title on it, but they don't think that and they are in a much better position to know than all of us combined.


May 20, 2013 6:11 PM

@ jerginz

You may (MAY) have a valid point. I would say though that its impossible to state its the case. The pool of riders who've got the chance to move from a satellite to full factory is very small, while the chances of failing to make the grade are much, much more likely than the likelihood of succeeding. Why? Experienced fast guys used to the kit and the data, the teams etc. etc. as well as being fast-tracked due to being damn good mean that ANY Satellite guy moving up is a No2 status rider and on the back foot from the get go, while the straight-to-factory guys are fully settled in and supported from day 1 and have the budgets and support.

So your statement is no more than a guess really. For all we know Alex Espagaro might just be the best rider in MotoGp right now, let alone CC - IF given the opportunity on equal kit to learn and compete.

rab 27 - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 6:52 PM

you do have a point,but ONLY in relation to riders that have come through the moto gp the time they get to moto gp all the teams have had a close eye on them for at least 3 or 4 years so have a good idea of how they will fair against riders of their era as they all move up the classes.
for a long time now riders from the uk ,us and austrailia have generally come via superbikes,either wsb or national series so they really are an unknown quantity on prototype machines.
that is why they all have to start on crt bikes,even spies who really did look like a very,very special rider after his debut year in wsbk.
guys like cal that move class every year never had the chance to establish themselves in any class,but did keep increasing their knowledge/skill base,so bear in mind that even many of the moto 3 riders have more knowledge of the ins and outs of the gp paddock and tracks than someone like cal.
he HAS improved EVERY season

Sid the Flid - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 6:52 PM

Cal did fantastic especially given his personal circumstances, but credit should also be given to his team mate. Bradley made a total hash of his start and went to the back of the field and did a sterling job to come to 9th and got close to getting 8th

rab 27 - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 6:53 PM

he HAS improved EVERY season so far,so has the potential to take the next step next season if that continues.he is not the most naturally talente
d rider in that paddock atm,but he has the committment of the very best.
he WILL pole or second for the silverstone grid,and will DEFINETLY (fingers crossed !)be on the podium in the race,and with the corners there being as much about bravery i think it will be his best shot for a win this season

Jerginz - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 7:08 PM

Another huge misconception -The factory bikes are light years ahead of the satellites. Simply not the case. Dovi got about the same results on a satellite yamaha as he did on a factory honda. If Yamaha felt crutch would have been a night and day difference on the factory spec bike, they surely would have given him the chance. Same goes for espargaro. If he could potentially be the next best racer in motogp, surely the factories would have noticed this by now and given him a shot. They know who has the best talent and that's why they picked the riders they have.

Jerginz - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 7:19 PM

I see your point about wsbk riders coming in and to be fair crutch most certainy has improved each year. And to be honest there is a bit of Spanish bias going on in the paddock. But at the same time the only winners this year have been Spanish (almost across all 3 classes). I'm also not saying there is no difference whatsoever between factory and sat spec bikes. There is, but it's not enough difference to justify the lack of good results for all satellite riders without alluding to the fact that they also don't have as much talent as the factory riders. In short, it has to do more with the rider on the bike than difference in machine spec.


May 20, 2013 10:34 PM

@ jerginz. Note I said factory resources not just the bike.

You cannot say a satellite team has the same amount of data, technicians, spare and new parts, electronics, in fact everything.

No2 riders other perhaps than at HRC rarely get equal kit to the team leader while satellite guys get the stuff left over.

To say satellite teams can be just as competitive is simply not the case. If it were then HRC & Yam are wasting vast sums of money for no good reason.

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