MotoGP » Le Mans: Crutchlow - Coughing blood to podium champagne

“I was lying on the floor with blood in the helmet and didn't know what the situation was” - Cal Crutchlow.

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Jerginz - Unregistered

May 21, 2013 12:02 PM

I agree with you on that too, but the guys you are referring to with better backing but not the most talent don't usually last more than a year or 2 with the factories. (Biaggi with repsol, Edwards/spies with Yamaha, etc) Pedro Lorenzo, stoner rossi and now Marquez have and will have been with the factories for years to come. You're also right there are limited seats and if Yamaha was doing a 3 rider team like repsol did in 2011, we'd be having a completely different discussion. All they can do is pick the riders that best give them a chance at the title. If the get a bad egg with great backing so to speak, they won't last more than a year or 2 and it's off to the next prospect.


May 21, 2013 3:21 PM

@ Jerginz.

Yes, but you didn't cover riders with backing AND suitable talent. Those guys will always take the spot, so the guy without the backing will never get his chance to step up from a Satellite, and the 'fact' that the best riders go straight to factory teams will perpetuate. Doesn't mean it is a fact even if it is likely or even probable.

I still believe that it is more then possible that there is a very talented rider out there hidden away who could 'click' with a factory bike and be the next 'Stoner' type rags to riches story. But.. chances are they'll never get to prove it with the way the 'system' works.

Jerginz - Unregistered

May 21, 2013 5:44 PM

Talentfan then this is where we agree to disagree. The riders with suitable talent AND backing are the Marquezs Lorenzos and pedrosas. If a rider is out there who has the potential to be the next stoner, but lacks the backing, I still believe he will be eventually "discovered" if he really is that talented. You are on to something though. There is no direct correlation between success in the lower classes and success in gp. On one side there's Bradl and Elias, on the opposite there's stoner.


May 21, 2013 6:43 PM
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It'd be interesting (though entirely impractical) to wonder what would happen to riders if there was a 'soccer league' system - where the bottom 3 of MotoGP got 'relegated' back to Moto2, and the top 3 of Moto2 got 'promoted' to the MotoGP class every season?

As the equipment disparity is so huge in MotoGP this might mean that those relegated weren't actually the worst 3. However the control element in M2 should make those moving up are the right guys.

Bet Pol Espagaro would have liked it as he's the only 1 of the top 3 who didn't get to move up for 2013!

Jerginz - Unregistered

May 21, 2013 9:39 PM

Yeh right now it really is a 2 tier championship. It will be interesting to see what happens when the crt's get prototype engines. Hopefully suzuki will actually return and furthermore be competitive. I just don't get why dorna is purposefully making it harder for them to come back saying they need to match up with a current team. They should be bending over backwards to get them here, not making it challenging for them. They need all the manufacturers they can get and making suzuki jump through these hoops like this is ridiculous.

Vicarious Racer - Unregistered

May 24, 2013 7:56 PM

@see ya

Agreed, Cal won't get the factory ride. But it's probably because he can't afford to pay for it!! He clearly has the ability and he definately has the tenacity, hopefully Yamaha will see common sense soon and give him the opportunity before Honda decide they want 1st 2nd and 3rd next season and make him an offer he can't refuse.

Mully77 - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 9:44 AM

Well done last week cal what a race to watch .good look in mugello do it for marco . Stick with jlo and Rossi watch out for mm he will be pushing for this one. Good luck mate

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