MotoGP » PIC: Production RCV completes Motegi test


"The test results showed more than what we had expected, in particular, with its running performance" - Shuhei Nakamoto (HRC).

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Doh Doh - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 3:27 PM

Nakamoto please.

The CRT-Yamaha M1 will run circles around these HRC protos.

Sell a pair to Ten Kate they need it bad. And even then the Kawa and Aprilia SBK will have for breakfast.

Waste of money to buy a bike designed to stay at the back of the pack.

prof-x - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 4:57 PM

Lolz, the chassis/suspension development will probably be better than the ART bikes, maybe even more powerful too.

In case you havent noticed electronics are a big thing, and with Honda building their whole package, and integrating all or most of the aspects of the bike, it will pretty much destroy a CRT built with an M1 dropped in. M1's electronics dont suite everyone and their bike is not very conventional in my opinion.

Honda look to be in good order though, as they probably have the best test rider in the world working their bike.

jjthekid46 - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 5:28 PM

@ prof-x:

What makes you think that Honda's production racer will be miles superior than a CRT ? It's being purposely built not be able to compete with prototypes!!!!!. Which means it will only be able compete with the CRT's. It's basically a 2013 version of a 2006 RC211V.
No seamless gearbox, check. No pneumatic valves, check, Showa Suspension, check.

The ART is already able to lap to within 1.5secs of pole depending on the track charactestistics, while Aprilia and Akira are developing pneumatic valve engines for their CRT bikes for this season, with Akira's Kawasaki engines rumoured to be introduced as soon as Barcelona.

As a team owner i'd rather spend 1 million on 2 CRT bikes with pneumatic valve engines and actually being able to keep the bikes with a truckload of spare parts, than fork out 2 million for a production Honda with Showa Suspension, no pneumatic valves, or 1.6 million on 2 Yamaha engines and at the end of the season not even being able to keep any of it.

prof-x - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 6:27 PM

dang, the test was on the 23rd/24th, so thats probably a former Repsol fill in, argh.

Showa had massive problems with chatter last year, and that is more an issue with the tires imo, than the suspension, limiting tire specs in GPs makes things very expensive for teams that do not have bikes developed around the particular tire. Bradl did pretty good at Mugello last year too, and I think he has Nissin brakes as well. LCR just cant setup a bike. More fuel more power, pneumatic valves are not really helping the ART down the straight, no loss there and the gearbox wont make as much of a difference as the rider, so I cant see it being too big a difference. Tom Sykes doesn't have pneumatic valves does he? He has no problems setting crazy lap times.

I rather think the gearbox was just an excuse to scapegoat for Yamaha getting their butts handed to them by a better bike.

wadcutter - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 12:28 AM

If I save all my penny's up do you think they will sell me one and put a tax disc on it? I will manage without the seamless shift and pneumatic valves on the road!!...and I might need an end can or two! Don't bother with lights I'll get a daylight m.o.t!!
If the proddy RCV and customer M1 engines are not up to speed then I fear the end of Moto GP. Until Dorna mess WSB rules up anyway.
I wonder if they asked Casey to test it......

Dare to Live

May 28, 2013 7:30 AM

My guess is that Honda is already doing just fine at MotoGP Level but doing miserably in WSBK both superbike and Superstock classes. Why not do a minimum homologation production run of the RCV a bike that will surely be competitive enough to be at the top of WSBK? Possibly a prototype future fireblade to be if successful...

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