MotoGP » 2014 Yamaha MotoGP engine lease 'not CRT'

"In conclusion, it will not be possible for a rival manufacturer or team to 'claim' an M1 engine."

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May 27, 2013 6:36 PM
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I think some people need to realise if you give anyone even the very best factory engine available they will not be close to getting on the podium.

Electronics are the key now and the factories have already sidestepped the issue of a standard ecu.

oldschoolfan - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 7:50 PM

Im a big Rossi fan but I am starting to see why Stoner left -a move that deserves much respect giving recent developments - this sport has lost its way and next year a lot of loyal fans as well.


May 27, 2013 8:24 PM

Its quite simple
1. Allow your engine to be bought for €20k and you get 12 engines, if you dont you only get 5 to use.
2. Use the Spec software on the ECU you get 25 litres of fuel, if you use your own software you get 21 litres.

Then again this is crash forums.
Can anybody tell me the simple WSB rules?

saint - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 8:25 PM

since you are an American or a Brit, better no talk about anybody elses eonomy (yours will tank soon in a real big way)
I wouldn't worry about the Japanese, they are survivors.

As for the rest of the speculators: does not matter if you gave the rest of the field factory prototypes, they would never be able to beat the three top guys...

Paddles - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 11:17 PM

Even though I completely agree with the CRT concept, introducing a third tier of performance just makes no sense to me. The championship now needs to swing one way or the other, production based (superbike) engines bombed to the eyeballs but with mechanical valves or homologated prototype engines with pneumatic valves allowed. All engines used in the championship should be homologated and sealed and all engines from any engine supplier should be identical whether it be used in a factory or a customer team, all engines should use a control ecu with the programming free. The playing field needs to be levelled to where the best rider with the best engineering wins and yet the worst financed team still has access to the good equipment. It'll only increase participation, close the gap and drop the cost though, it won't change the current results, the 3-4 top guys now will still be winning the races because they are still the best riders.

wadcutter - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 12:38 AM

I think I've solved this hole problem for moto gp......Lets have say 500cc engines....lets make them 2 stroke......lets have no traction many engines as you like....max power 190bhp......wet race weight min 145kg.....any tyres but they have to be black ones.....
And lets race!!!!!!!!!!
simples...that wasn't hard now was it?

truth - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 12:48 AM

What an utter piece of s..t storey.

Just completely revamp the whole thing throw all favouratism towards manufacturers out, they'll soon crawl back , without this shop window what can they do? Go back to superbike ? no biggy you own that too. Fck off electronics theres no more benefit to it, keep the bling marketing and put all the money into the racing FFS do it now before its too late.

Educationer - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 1:56 AM

Engine leasing is the way to go look at F1, Lotus Renault, Maclaren Mercedes etc, chassis built by one, engines by another.
A sweet handling Kalex Yamaha with 24 litres of fuel to open her up on. If you can get an effective and reliable electronics program out of the spec ECU you will have quite a weapon.
Of course to really be effective the cost needs to come down a bit.

Paddles - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 3:33 AM

@educationer - absolutely right, engine leasing is really the only way forward for the category, and the manufacturers need to be forced to make engines available for a minimum number of customer teams to cover the entire field. But above all, the playing field needs levelling in terms of expense and engine performance to make a competitive entry into the world championship within the reach of more teams. To do this package powerplants are the future (like F1) but the need to be identical, homologated and sealed at the start of the season for all users. The category can't have a situation with engines like the bad old days of the tyre wars where one team got good tyres and other teams got whatever they got.

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