MotoGP » Pedrosa: Marquez improved after he copied our settings


Dani Pedrosa feels his set-up data helped Repsol Honda team-mate Marc Marquez get up to speed for race day at Mugello.

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herewego

June 07, 2013 8:12 AM

Danny has GOT to win the championship title this year or God knows what will happen to him! Imagine the carry on if Marquez beats him! To be honest though, I hope little Danny does win this year as he deserves it after all the bad luck he has had over the years, but also, little Marquez is looming dangerously in the wings so Danny is going to have to give it everything he has and more!!
These 2 have to be the smallest riders in the MotoGP paddock so it looks like it will be Munchkins at war!!!

Codger

June 07, 2013 8:29 AM

Interesting discussion guys. Marc, himself, has said that he uses his elbow as a gauge to tell how far over he is. He says that he can use his elbow as a lever to save crashes.
Why he is able to do that and others can't is anyone's guess.
When Dani first came up to the main class he would exit a corner by standing the bike up and 'throwing' himself off the side. When Casey arrived he did the same, which the commentators picked up on.
Jorge has probably the most extreme lean angle without putting his elbow down. So who knows?

Darkwaknight

June 07, 2013 11:22 AM

SO glad that Crash hav finally stopped Unregistered Posters...Makes this all so much more enjoyable to post on.

Now IMOP the reason Dani seems to have less tyre at the latter stages of "Some" races (lets be honest this is not an every race issue, i.e. Germany, Jerez, Sepang, Brno, Indy, Aragon,Japan etc etc) is that he is lighter and has amazing feel for a bike that IF his set-up is not quite right he suffers more at the end of a race as his weight means he cannot alter or compensate as much on the bike/tyres as other bigger/Heavier riders. The crash from Mugello was most likely down to the fact that Dani knew and could feel the front was going and could let go and MM could not/did not sense it or just ignored it. Dani will have races like this again this year but by settling for 2nd or 3rd rather than falling off is the key to WC (ask Jorge!). And lets be honest Dani simply said that MM did not have a setting because of a bad weekend so he simply/the team simply used his. That is wha

shamarone

June 07, 2013 12:04 PM

re: "I was under the impression that Marc hangs off the bike further than danny and most other riders to allow him to keep the bike more upright while still pulling it through the turns?"

looks good on paper (and the internet), but that's not what's happening. marquez isn't 6ft tall.

shamarone

June 07, 2013 12:28 PM
Last Edited 499 days ago

Q: Why he is able to do that and others can't is anyone's guess.

A: the others don't need to.

touching down knees, elbows and all manner of hard parts, leg dangling, etc, are not the be all/end all determiner of speed. that stuff is really just "theatrics". observe that we don't see lorenzo doing this at mugello (or anywhere else). also, did we see sykes do any of this at donington...? no we did NOT.

EDIT by CRASH.NET! Criticism of other posters removed. Don't stir.

pcxmac

June 07, 2013 12:34 PM
Last Edited 499 days ago

@JimmyJimmy

Yah, Dani was injured for most of 2011 dude. He did a good job destroying Jorge at Estoril though. As for him *not being able to get* better edge grip *over race distance* thats not very accurate, last year at Sachsenring where the edge of the tire is primo important Dani pretty much spanked the guy who is seen by most to be the superior rider. In fact it was Casey who was having edge grip issues it looked like in the race.

In the end its all about setup, the bike and how the tires are made. Ducati had no problem beating Honda and Yamaha before the control tire, setting fastest laps, etc... Every different bike treats the tires different generally enough, this is why the control tire is not fair, and is a lie. Bridgestone helped Rossi keep his pride, and now they are helping Marquez become the next Rossi in order to keep up interest in the class of racing. Its pretty obvious. That kid is just too messy about his lines, braking to really get the most out of his tires, it's

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