MotoGP » 2014 Honda could make MotoGP debut this season


“If Dani and Marc find something they feel is a big improvement... HRC will do its best to provide [the 2014 RCV] later this season” - Takeo Yokoyama, Honda.

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AussieNSW

June 19, 2013 1:14 PM

@shuggiemac
I can see where you are coming from re costs but when honda say its a new frame and engine to do the tooling for that would be a huge cost but that is not totally right ,90% of that tooling would be just modified from the current bike which to a Co like honda is peanuts,thats why they can produce "New" bikes so quickly, and I can tell you from experience (not in bikes) that Ducati in 2011/12 with bike updates plus building a complete new bike at the end of 2011 would have spent at least 5 times more money than honda in them 2 yrs

Yuusuf27

June 19, 2013 1:39 PM

@jukkax..
You wrong Bro.. Not suspension guys but Telemetri guys.
And not Hijack.. Hijack is like stolen.... It's called move on to other jobs or company. Their contract ended.
Same like Yamaha take Rossi and His crews from Honda,they negotiate quietly.. Is that called a hijack to??

TalentFan

June 19, 2013 2:34 PM

I predicted this could happen in a post months ago.... Yam are 80% into their engine allocation, so there's a fair chance they'll have to turn down the rpms and/or take penalties to get through the 50% of the season that's left.

MGP will then be a 2-horse race as Dani and Marc will be able to just twist the throttles and clear off while the Yams can only watch them ride away.

The 5-engine rule (with the contrasting regs of unlimited rpms, fuel limit etc.) does the OPPOSITE of cut costs, as it dictates MASSIVE R&D budgets and staffing to maximise the potential within these daft rules. Only Honda have the resources and it also plays to their strengths in engine engineering while negating Yamaha's in handling (as well as less resources). No-one else gets a look-in with the regs as they stand.

MotoGP belongs to Honda. Its a 1-horse race - might as well give HRC the trophies right now. Dorna - you really have royally screwed MotoGP up and are heading the same way with WSBK.

JukkaX

June 19, 2013 5:42 PM

Aragon test day 2: Lorenzo 1'48.076, Marquez 1'48.434, Pedrosa 1'48.928, Rossi 1'49.007, Bradl 1'49.553 Bautista 1'50.080 De Puniet 1.50.860

Stoner fastest lap ever (b4) from 2011 was 1.48.5

pcxmac

June 19, 2013 6:33 PM

Dont worry TalentFan, Bridgestone are doing good enough job keeping Dani from stealing the lime light, and Marc will always choose to sit behind and take a tow so Honda running a way with it is a very remote possibility.

R6Ryder

June 20, 2013 1:56 AM

@pcxmac So do you think that b-stone goes out of their way and secretly makes tires that they know will cause dani trouble? I think its so hilarious how so many fans think Bridgestone does massive r&d to develop a tire that's intended to make a particular rider struggle. And if you did not notice he is leading the championship and has taken the lions share of wins since mid point last season. It's not like the old days, Bridgestone absolutely does not intentionally make tires that they know a top level rider is gonna complain about or have trouble with. Every time 1 company gets on with a tire better people jump to assume bstone is maliciously trying to help one hurt another. They are in this to promote the brand. Why would they intentionally screw a rider or team so they get thrashed in the post race Interview? I just don't think Its that way and I hope others agree. I think b stone wants nothing more than to hear how great the rubber works for everyone. Especially the top guys

therealDave

June 20, 2013 7:04 AM

Poor AussiNSW,

Let it go mate, its not good for you. If you can read, you will see that all I have highlighted in my post was that you chose the wrong stat for the comparison of brands (per usual).

But, instead of justifying why rider WC is a better stat than constructors championship when comparing makes, you simply crap on (also per usual).

Dude, you seem to get ruffled when people dont respect your opinions or accept them as fact. Stoner also struggled with this but he dealt with it by leaving...you could actually learn from him (who would have thought - chuckle to self).

shuggiemac

June 20, 2013 8:42 AM

@AussieNSW I don't disagree. I work in manufacturing and am also well aware of costings etc. That said the cost of development, even modifying frame tooling all the way down the line etc etc will still be more than say test sessions, which Dorna restrict because of cost. My point is not that Honda can afford it, as they patently can but can say the IODA team? I believe that was the logic behind Dorna's controls. If it were down to me I would let teams develop and test as much as they want/can.

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