MotoGP » MotoGP claiming rule dropped


"MotoGP Class - Effective 2014: The engine claiming rule is cancelled completely."

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hoppy

July 03, 2013 6:11 PM

Lets be absolutely honest here guys.Motogp is only ever going to be a level playing field when factory prototypes are banned.But we all know that is not going to happen any time soon.Until it does,CRTs are simply grid fillers and i really fail to see the point of filling the grid with bikes that have absolutely no chance of ever winning a race!

TalentFan

July 03, 2013 10:28 PM

@ hoppy. My point exactly. Which means right now that there are only 4 bikes that need bother to lap the track - the rest know they have a cats chance in hell of a win unless there was freak incident that took the HRC/Yam Factory bikes all out first.

4 properly competitive bikes out of 18 or more is not a premier race series no matter which way you slice it.

So the grid is already filled with bikes that cannot win, and the new lease Hondas & Yam engines will do what to change that? Precisely ZERO. So we get MORE Mfr control when MotoGP needs them to have NO control before it can ever be a proper racing environment.

TalentFan

July 03, 2013 10:42 PM
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RSMick seems hell-bent on trying to prove other than the reality, which is that MotoGP (soon WSBK too, thanks Dorna!) is a non-competitive in depth series where Factory teams utterly control the outcome & the relative competitiveness of most of the field. Which means it ain't really a proper competition. Simple. End of.

Imagine if you are a world class talented rider, but without the connections and support and passport perhaps to get the 4 plum seats. What the hell is fair and good for talented guys to risk life and limb and spend years of a brief career knowing full well that they will not have a chance to race to win fair and square?

No wonder Crutchlow is so adamant about a Factory bike. He knows he's wasting his time for little reward on anything else.

TedG

July 03, 2013 10:47 PM

hoppy and Talent Fan,
But what is really happening is there are 3 races going on to give us a bit of drama. The factory bikes(excluding Ducati at the moment). The Satellite teams(maybe we should include Ducati here) and the CRTs. We look for how they finish amongst themselves and how they encroach on the others. I don't look for a CRT to win, but I do look who finished first in that class.

whitefang

July 04, 2013 1:23 AM

This just sounds like present CRT teams finally deciding to move to moto 2 and run for the win and Yamaha and Honda racing by themselves. Have you watched the moto 2 races this year ? I think the big class should be opening for them each week.

Southernx

July 04, 2013 4:22 AM

@Ted G

I totally agree with you. The fact that there are 3 tiers and the close racing within those tiers has made the class more interesting. The very debates on this site about which rider on what bike prove your point.
What also makes the class interesting is the what ifs between the factory and satellite bikes.
Its called motorcycle racing and I love it.

TalentFan

July 04, 2013 6:57 AM

@ Southernx

Yes there is interest about which underdog can punch above his weight in a race.

Surely though the potential excitement of wondering whether (say) which one of a dozen riders is going to run up front in a race and perhaps have someone other than the same podium finishes nearly every race would be a lot better than 3-tier?

Proper close competitive racing where the likely result can't be predicted with reasonable certainty before the lights go out and where a Cal (or a de Puniet or an Espagaro!) could put in a great ride and pull of an edge-of-seat thriller for a WIN for example!

Southernx

July 04, 2013 8:39 AM

@TalentFan

I hear you. The reality is that the whole field will never end up on equal machinery. It will never happen unless MotoGP aligns with Moto2 and Moto 3. Now THAT would be interesting. Equal machinery and riding skills deciding the podium.

RSMick

July 04, 2013 9:32 AM

Talent Fan, name me a class of racing where all is equal where the vehicles are entered by teams.
Also name me a sport where the richest don't have the best.
And don't keep repeating the it should be this and should be that because its life itself, I would like to have the same as Branson.
Blame the sponsors, Repsol have it in their contract with Honda that they must have the best equipment as do Malboro, Yamaha hold out and it shows.
The private teams are now giving an opportunity as Jarvis was saying to find something, and guess what? It may be in the electronics. If you want to scrap anything get rid of satellite bikes.

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