MotoGP » Redding rides ex-Kevin Schwantz 500cc Suzuki!


“They should bring these back. It was absolutely mega to ride!" - Scott Redding

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aircooled4

July 08, 2013 2:18 PM

A friend of mine has a 500 from 1984,last year I helped him get the bike ready for a race(he was also in spa,but I didn't have time this time).We set the bike up in his garage with basic tools,without the electronics the costs would for sure be less..Of course he didn't win,but he's over 50 with a family so thats going to hold him back.The bikes are brutal,and I would love if not to see them back racing,see more oldtimer races,and more tv coverage for them.

69transam

July 08, 2013 3:24 PM

i only remember Doohan riding away from everyone as im old but not that old....still is was better back then just wish Foggy was in it.....
but you have to love Scott...and with Cal and Sykes , Britain is started to become a force so lets have a motocross des nations for circuit racing

TalentFan

July 08, 2013 3:53 PM

@ RSMick Hernandez is I'm sure very talented. But that doesn't change the point. Which is that, as he is on an ART Aprilia CRt with sophisticated electronics, he doesn't have to use his Supermoto-honed throttle control - his own team say he's brave, trusts in the software and just goes from fully closed throttle to fully open as if its a lightswitch.

So... he NEEDED his throttle skill on the Avintia, but DOESN'T on the Aprilia ART it seems.

You can bet the CRT Aprilia doesn't have BETTER solutions than factory Yam or HRC. Which brings it back around - the electronics are clouding the issue about which racer is doing the job best and therefore who is winning may NOT be the best rider.

TalentFan

July 08, 2013 3:57 PM


The factories will love it (if they can prove the rider is no longer THE determining factor), as they can claim that it is their bike that is the reason for wins and is therefore 'the best' (within rules that only they can afford solutions for that is, and rules they pushed Dorna into).

But... its not what fans want to watch racing for, which is to see which gladiator rides his machine the bravest and with most skill, with all having as near equal an opportunity to compete as the next.

MotoGP has none of these attributes right now, and this is why I say that the OTT tech and electronics and rule structure needs a thorough overhaul. No-one yet (Mick) has been able to come up with any argument with weight to say otherwise.

TalentFan

July 08, 2013 4:02 PM
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The way things are now... Yonny Hernandez is brave and trusts the electronics - sounds like a perfect factory HRC rider to me!

So... stick him on Marquez's bike and you could have a Columbian WC perhaps.

But.... stick him on a bike like these old 500GP's (or even a modern MotoGP but where skill and control aces sheer bravery and trust - i.e. tone down the rider aids a lot) and Yonny might be lightning one week, and the fastest guy into orbit or hospital the week after.

Thats a big difference - and with the same rider, riding the same way. WC or nowhere - and all the difference is, is a geek army, a laptop, lots of data and a fat wallet.

TedG

July 08, 2013 5:53 PM

Even if the 2 stroke 500s were allowed, they would be just as "Electronic bound" as the 4 strokes today, except slower. Traction control and all.
Don't get me wrong, I flat love 2 strokes. From my first YL1-E to my 73 H2. I just finished a Penton flat tracker 2 Stroke. But the four strokes are faster these days. The real shame is the development of the 2 stroke engines has all but stopped because of the outlawing of 2 strokes all over the world.

CRT

July 08, 2013 7:59 PM

Even with all of the rider aids and electronics, riders are still capable of making forced and unforced errors. The reason why the front runners clear off is because they make fewer mistakes than the rest.

Even in your delusional glory filled 2 stroke days, riders were running away with it at the front. It takes just as much balls to ride the modern four stroke as it does the 2 smoke. How many broken collar bones have we seen in the last few years? How many deaths?

You have one of two choices. The pinnacle of the sport that combines both man and machine at the highest level, or you can go away and watch the Honda 500 cup.

Nothing in motorsports is ever level unless you are running a spec series, and even then there are small differences in machine.

Take out the manufacturers. Put them all on CRT's and guess what, he with the biggest budget still wins.

I suggest you find another series to follow instead of trying to relive some rose colored glory days.

bri t

July 08, 2013 9:03 PM

But do MotoGP electronic advances filter down to street bikes? Sure 2-strokes were more exciting and electronics are clouding the rider talent, but there may be other benefits for real day-to-day riders?

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