MotoGP » New Bridgestone MotoGP tyre to debut at Brno


“We are planning to introduce our new hard compound rear slick tyre at the Czech Republic Grand Prix” - Masao Azuma, Bridgestone.

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dacron

July 26, 2013 12:04 PM

DB8
the tyre that is causing jlo, dp cal and vr trouble is the very tyre that was introduced mid season last year , the one the world champion complained about and was called a moaner for his stand against it.
it has a soft carcass that is too squishy and over heats , vale said last year it was great , this year he says it is crap , lets see if a harder carcass tyre is re introduced in t he near future.

DB8

July 26, 2013 1:55 PM
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@ dacron - always with the rossi vs stoner with you. lol.

I believe Rossi said "Stoner was right".

Bottom line, they need to make it better. Its ridiculous how much tyres play a part. Yeah, of course they're massively important, but they shouldn't be the main deciding factor in race outcomes, which has happened too many times this year.

Codger

July 26, 2013 4:10 PM

@ Dacron.......I think if you look it up you'll find that Rossi didn't really give an opinion, he more or less said that seeing that he was a non-contender due to riding the Ducati, they didn't give a s***t what he thought.

Casey was right but nobody listened to him. Where have we heard that before?

Codger

July 26, 2013 4:24 PM

@ Dacron

"Echoing the words of Stoner in 2012, Valentino Rossi feels that the real issue is not the compound, but the construction.

“With the soft casing of the front tyre - this front tyre was done for safety reasons, to have better warm-up, but with the 800,” said the seven time MotoGP champion, who has returned to Yamaha from Ducati this season. “Now the (1000cc) bikes are faster and heavier and the tyre is too soft. Jorge has some compliant, but also for me - I suffer more.”

When asked about Stoner's opposition to the tyre and why most riders had appeared to support the softer construction, the Italian added: “I was still with Ducati and I said, 'look, for me, I am in the sh*t anyway!' So it was a decision that was taken."

Note the final sentence.

dacron

July 26, 2013 5:26 PM

yes i ve read both articles codger , but there were other articles also wirh not only vale but most the grid saying there was no problem with the tyre , 2012 stoner and dan stood as lone voices not entirely about the soft carcass tyre but more for removing the hard carcass tyre as another option , it was crashes galore once the soft carcass was introduced , and ben spies is still not even back yet , this recent article with vale has him against the tire , he is a development rider for bridgestone so lets wait and see and i have a hunch there will be a hard carcass tyre introduced before end of season.

Codger

July 26, 2013 6:14 PM

@ Dacron...I suppose that when a new format tyre arrives, they all test it and most suggest it is an improvement, after all it should be seeing that it was developed after input from the riders. It certainly doesn't mean that it will be an improvement at the next track that they go to, or the one after that.
The tyre provider is chasing it's tail at any given time anyway. Different tracks, different climates, different track temperatures, etc. etc. Too many variables keep moving the goal posts. Add in difference between the bikes as well and they're on a lost cause.

Scrap qually tyres too please.

shamarone

July 26, 2013 8:34 PM

re: "Each team should have the right to choose a tyre from a manufacturer that suits them, not be forced to use a tyre that makes their bikes suffer."

sure, but the trade off is that an individual team would have to directly PAY for that engineering. right now the collective get them for "free" indirectly because bridgestone is contracted to dorna.

while what you suggest is great, it is not without pitfalls. making bespoke tyres for just 1 or 2 teams (instead of a entire grid making it cost effective) is an expensive endeavor. how much can we put you down for...?

hoppy

July 27, 2013 3:09 PM

The top teams spend a lot on Motogp thats true.
But i think spending more on tyres that could potentially win you the championship would be money well spent.
Just my opinion of course.

shamarone

July 28, 2013 4:43 AM

re: "But i think spending more on tyres that could potentially win you the championship would be money well spent."

looks good on paper. however, I invite you to google search the term "pyrrhic victory". that'll give you sense of how things ACTUALLY transpire in the real world.

it should also give you a sense of the road we've already been down. keep in mind, it's not by fluke or happenstance that we currently have a control tyre in MotoGP.

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