MotoGP » Ducati hoping to keep Hayden 'in the family'

“We are trying to see if Nicky can stay with us in a different role, maybe in MotoGP or maybe in Superbikes”

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July 27, 2013 6:04 PM

To those that say Nicky would regularly podium on a Yam or a Honda...

He won (and earned) his WC 7 years ago. In 2006 Nicky was great, consistant and fast. Many will say Rossi is past his best, so why would Nicky suddenly shine after all these years in MotoGP?

He's a fast rider, a hard worker and a very decent man. HE decided to remain with Ducati, even last year when they were ready to dump him in a second had Rossi decided to stay, but Rossi left so they "let" him stay

He should have left ages ago but it was his choice to stay. He isn't complaining so why are you lot?


July 27, 2013 7:48 PM
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July 27, 2013 3:26 AM

Gee, if Honda had followed your advice and dumped him after the first contract due to your definition of under-performing (not winning right out of the box), they would have passed on the first guy who was able to stop the Rossi Express. Even after being sandbagged by his own team mate.

First of all, nobody expects a rider, no matter how good (a rookie), to win "right out of the box" - not even marquez.

Second of all, Hayden placed a respectable 5th - considering he never raced in Europe (though neither did Spies in WSBK his first year). But the following he finished an "unremarkable" 8th, and not due to injury or crashes... IF you knew anything about HRC (or any factory for that matter) history is that they dont have much patience for mid-pack finishers. HRC or Yamaha would have fired ANY rider under these same circumstances - and they have! BUT, Hayden was treated with kid gloves - as Honda America's marketed "pretty boy"


July 27, 2013 8:07 PM
Last Edited 856 days ago

July 27, 2013 3:26 AM


As fans and yourself like to point out "hayden stopped rossi" is laughable. The truth of the matter, it was Gibernau who changed the face of the season by taking out not only himself, but also half of the grid in CAT. Capi was leading the WC and Rossi was behind marco (injured as well) in the points. Despite Rossi injuring his wrist in Assen, he was not as damaged as capi, marco and gibs. Paving the way for Hayden...

The fact remains that Hayden did a very poor title defense - proper of a lucky champ (as a FEW others before him) - and "Numbers don't L1e" speak for themselves.

Finally, Randy Mamola never won a WC, and Schwantz only won one (in great part due to Rainy's injury), but they were ALWAYS contenders. Winning, leading and consistantly finishing at the end the season in the top positions - not 8th or 9th! Hayden won by shear luck, and it wont matter what he rides- it aint gonna happen.


July 27, 2013 8:18 PM
Last Edited 856 days ago

In sum...

Ducati is doing a marketing effort in PR in order to avoid "Brand Bashing" by Hayden Fanaticos. Perhaps Ducati may have mixed feelings... One on side it would be a relief - to end the marketing nightmare - for Hayden to go to another brand. IF Hayden is unsucessful it would be hard pressed for fans to blame ducati and rather blame the new brand (though, look at Honda! - which is why HRC may think twice...) However, if Hayden IS substantially successful then Ducati could find itself Bashed again by Hayden fans (in the US of course).

Ontheotherhand, keeping Hayden is nice for marketing as he is the "aw shucks" pretty boy that fans luv.. smiles and is willing to do to promotions...


July 27, 2013 10:45 PM

I would like to see him join his bro in AMA sbk and put it to josh Hayes. I know its a major step back and I'm saying this out of my own personal selfishness because I watch AMA roadracing and I like Nicky and reguardless of the series it always feels good to win. I knoe he could win races in AMA or WSBK. But then again I thiught John Hopkins would do well in AMA but he didnt do so well. I think any option in MotoGP will be mid pack at best. Perhaps join Colin Edwards a prototype YZR M1 powered bike.


July 28, 2013 1:09 AM
Last Edited 856 days ago

re: "Ducati is doing a marketing effort in PR"

Puerto Rico...? sweet...!!!

re: "IF Hayden is unsuccessful it would be hard pressed for fans to blame Ducati and rather blame the new brand (though, look at Honda! - which is why HRC may think twice...) However, if Hayden IS substantially successful then Ducati could find itself Bashed again by Hayden fans"

we were WAAAY past all that now. who's hayden...? fans already have the Rossi precedent to point to. in 2012 vale was seen cartwheeling into the corkscrew.

otoh at Laguna 2013 on different kit, VR46 took a podium. his 3rd, and already had a win under his belt. hayden fans are the least of ducati's worries. that massive blip on the radar is a wing of the ROSSI armada.


July 28, 2013 3:33 PM

given that a german manufacturer IE BMW have just pulled out of WSBK the panagale is a pile of pants and Ducati being a terrible Moto GP brand how long will Audi pile money after Bad? they have made no progress this year and have been shamed by GRT bikes i wouldnt be surprised if Audi pulled the plug and concentrated on the audi 24 Hour le mans , I cant see how the selling of bikes which allegedly depends on the GP brand will make a blind bit of difference to AUDI who lets be honest manufacture superb cars. If it aint winning it aint worth the coin............


July 29, 2013 4:20 AM

The best comparator here is Dovi, who equally did nothing special at HRC but was looking pretty impressive on a Sat Yam then goes to Duc and is running around in 7th with him and Hayden fighting for the same posi each race. So it would suggest to me that if you put Hayden on the Sat Yam he would probably produce results similar to Dovi who I might add generally eclipsed Cal in the seasoon. I don't think given say a current RC213 he would regularly podium but he has been so long at Duc that it is hard to even guess how good he could be on decent kit. Also he still got paid millions so I am not too fussed either way.

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