MotoGP » Bradl, Marquez talk Moto2 to MotoGP

“I think Moto2 is a good school for MotoGP” - Stefan Bradl.

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July 30, 2013 3:09 AM

Not many riders made the 800 era of MotoGP work from the 250 class. But that may be indictment on the number of good rides in GP during that era, looks like change may be under way there.

Instead most 125cc and Moto3 riders (Marquez included), struggle to move to Moto2.

Wonder how Vinales will cope with the switch, he made the initial adjustment to Moto3 the best (and then KTM became dominate) and that first season of his on 125cc


July 30, 2013 9:59 AM

gp is a bit of a joke . .good riders, good story lines but the racing is not very good and there are only 4 bikes that can win and half the bikes are just there to make it look legit but rarely finish inside the top 10. i still watch but i cant help think of what it could be , id like to see the lot of em go to WSBK


July 30, 2013 10:41 AM

@ TeSmalls "Don't watch it or read articles about it then. Problem solved."

What a ridiculous and idiotic post. Apart from the fact this is a site which is based upon public comment....

How on earth is anything ever going to change to try to turn MotoGP into what it ought to be, if public opinion is not seen and heard by those in power?

The ONLY thing that'd make Dorna instigate a return to proper Racing is if public opinion suggests that their earnings will fall due to dissatisfaction with their appalling direction to turn racing into a cheap nasty scripted reality-tv type parody of the real thing.

Instead of telling me to stop watching - if you were a REAL racing fan you'd be annoyed as well that MotoGP is being turned into a joke, and want change.


July 30, 2013 12:54 PM


"if public opinion is not seen and heard by those in power"

That's it in a nutshell. For years the fans have been saying we want close racing, spinning, sliding, tyre smoking wheelies and burn outs like in the pre electronics days.. Traction control is the riders wrist. Get rid of the rider aids! The powers that are responsible are not listening because they are the factories. They want the electronics. Dornas big plan for CRT and spec electronics was in the end a cop out because they caved in to the factories that wanted to spend the GDP of a small country to keep their advantage at the expense of competition and racing.


July 30, 2013 1:03 PM

@Talent Fan

I agree that if MotoGP were only watched/read about by fans, then it there wouldn't be any criticism of it. And yes, this is a site based on public comment, although I do believe one not regarded in the best light by "the paddock"...

Sadly, I don't think that they are interested in what you, or I, or any viewer outside of South East Asia currently thinks. They are going to go where the money is, and base there changes around that.

As it is now, with the new rules for next year, and more major changes lined up for 2017 (spec software on all teams from 2017, including the factory teams), with more stable, consistent rules, I think things will become much better.

And hey, on a good day we could have, what.. 6/7 riders fighting for podiums? AB, SB, DP, VR, JL, CC, MM.

But I guess the main point I was trying to make, was that telling people on here that you don't like MotoGP isn't really going to help in the big scheme of things. Especially on a moderately minor story like


July 30, 2013 2:27 PM

You know i agree with your attitude to the way the sport is run,but to be honest,as TeSmalls says,our voices are never going to be heard.
So i guess we are just going to have to watch and enjoy Motogp for what it is.
We know its never going to be fair as long as the factories wield such power.
But i still tune in to every race all the same!


July 30, 2013 7:24 PM

@ Hoppy & TeSmalls. I know that what you say is correct sadly. It doesn't mean I have to like it though nor accept it. I'm in full agreement with DC,a post as well but realise that MotoGP,s masters don't actually CARE about the racing OR the fans just so long as they can fool the masses and make bundles. And if it all does implode one day they'll not care about that either.

I have always loved motorcycle racing and followed GP,s since the late 1970's. However I can see me abandoning MotoGP as its now a shameful shadow of the real thing and I don't want to support such a farce.


July 31, 2013 1:05 AM

@TalentFan, TeSmalls, hoppy,
The bad part is there are always rules to racing, and those rules usually favor the MFG or sponsor with the deepest pockets.
And whether we like it or not it is all about money. Sponsors want exposure and will pay through the nose to get it. Promoters are in business to make money. Even the riders want to make money (oh the humanity!!). So it will be rule bound, and it will only get worse. Here is the most apropos example....NASCAR. Rules from hell, glamor and glitz, and drivers that well .... all have the same DNA and couldn't be identified by dental records.
And the series makes money hand over fist...Go figure.


July 31, 2013 7:29 PM
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Yeah but the problem is its just not the factories its the tube and the 'drama' made for television. Casey left because he saw where the sport was going, and has felt this way since errrrmmmm 2009/2010?

Whats the point in racing if one company can decide whose bike is going to be the quickest, or change the tires mid season to keep up the competition.

What guarantees are there that every rider is getting the same quality of tire? Can you tell Lorenzo that his cold tire was just like everyone else's?What is to keep anyone from committing fraud when they have so much influence and control like Bridgestone (Rossi, 2009+) or Honda (Marquez) or Yamaha (Spies).

The worst aspect of MotoGP is that it is insulting to anyone with half a brain who can see whats going on, and it promotes the suffering of peoples who are encouraged to worship heroes and buy in to the irrational bs.


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