MotoGP » Softer privateer tyre unconfirmed for 2014


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skally

July 31, 2013 2:46 PM

Wonder how long it will be before the factories cotton on to the regs and we see the appearance " privateer" repsol hondas and a Rossi & lorenzo running "privateer" Yams these regs just encourage the manufacturers to sidestep the rules dont they Aprilia.

shamarone

July 31, 2013 3:16 PM

re: "when asked if the softer rear will continue, Bridgestone stated that nothing is yet confirmed with “discussions still ongoing between Bridgestone, Dorna and the FIM.”

translation: producing tyres that may or may not get used ain't cheap, come off the dime and we'll produce WHATEVER you like.

BJR

August 01, 2013 12:09 AM

Now it's a blatent handicapping system.

Ride too fast and you'll get harder tyres with less grip, while the slower riders get tyres with more grip.

All control tyre varaints should be freely available to all teams, not some teams getting access to different tyres to increase the entertainment value.....

IvorBueb

August 01, 2013 9:49 PM

Agree BJR. I think it is contrived dictating tyre choice- see what a farce the F1 rules often create.

Just let all the riders use whatever they find best for the Sunday, as long as there are no safety issues.

pcxmac

August 02, 2013 11:03 PM

yup, and get rid of the damned sensors (wheel speed, suspension, etc...) All the class needs is a regulated standardized plug in to monitor the ignition, fuel pressure, injector timing, etc,

you don't need standard ecus that are controlled by one manufacturer, you just need solid and accountable practices to mitigate the opportunities for rider aids. Along side open inspections from competing teams/regulatory personnel.

And then ban teams if traction control is detected for a race or two. Real simple math, make it cost prohibitive to run traction control, BUT FOR GOD SAKE DO NOT GIVE ONE MANUFACTURER THE OPPORTUNITY TO dictate the technical aspects to all teams, as that has DONE NOTHING BUT MANIPULATE RACING. Force the guys in GPs to run OEM-consumer ECUs. Standardize the wiring harnesses, etc...

BJR

August 03, 2013 3:58 AM

They've got all the junk they need on the bikes to implement these so called "rider aids", it just comes down to writing lines of code.

The ECU already knows what's going on with every part of the bike and is logging it, along with controlling all the engine functions so again it's just a few lines of code.

You guys should see how many "maps", timing functions and channel mixes my $3000 transmitter has just to fly toy airplanes. Look up Futaba 18MZ

pcxmac

August 04, 2013 5:35 PM
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thats why you run OEM ECU's (where competitors can open them up and inspect them on their own time) standardized wiring harnesses (limit sensor integration) and dont allow single manufacturers to have too much hold over particular technical aspects of a class.

Electronics have come a long way, but forcing people to work with consumer electronics means it can limit the feasibility of having to manufacturer so many high end ecu's. & then though, making the ECU public allows for scrutiny.

I personally believe tires in MotoGP should be 'opened' up and more than one manufacturer should be building in order to maintain quality control.

BJR

August 05, 2013 12:11 PM

The "problem" with multiple one tyre manufacturers is that Dorna loses control over the "racing".

Look what happend in 2007 when the wrong guy ended up with tyres that allowed him to extract the full potential of the Ducati. Rossi was whining, Dorna was pulling it's hair out and there was nothing Dorna, Honda,Yamaha or Michelin could do about it until 2008.

Back in the good (?) old days when it was really just Michelin, whoever could twist Michelins arm the hardest (usually Honda) got better tyres for their machines.

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