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Don-R

August 08, 2013 4:03 PM

@TalentFan

A hint towards the Smith/Pol E situation next year might be found in the Edwards/Spies line up at Tech 3 a few years back. When a few improvements finally filtered down from the factory towards the end of the season, they went to Ben rather than Colin (since confirmed by Edwards in an interview for Cycle World), as it was BS who had the factory contract.

Mind you, I'd be surprised if either Tech 3 rider will be running the seamless shift next year, which will mean a greater disadvantage to the factory squad than this year.

R6Ryder

August 08, 2013 4:23 PM

Just curious about the statements made about how the factories will not allow a satellite team/rider to win. So.... If say CCrutchlow suddenly started riding the wheels off the tech3 M1 and upped his pace to beat the factory boys what would Yamaha do to "prevent this" from happening? Are u suggesting they would somehow sabotage something to slow him down? I call BS on that! They way they keep the factory team ahead is mainly in hiring the better talent. Of course the development is a step ahead but when has a "new part" ever made a huge difference? Hundredth of seconds is what a factory team gets . Not much. I don't think for a second that Honda or Yamaha would intentionally sabotage a rider/team to prevent good results. If anyone believes that then please convince me. I think they would embrace it and use it as a tool in marketing . "Even out non factory equipment is championship worthy" IMHO

pcxmac

August 08, 2013 6:00 PM
Last Edited 496 days ago

its the electronics, and the control tires.

the problem with going all private teams and excluding the mfrs, is that Dorna gets even more control over the series and completely wh0res it out in to full on drama crud.

If you get rid of the mfrs, you need to get rid of the control ecu and the control tire, otherwise almost all the influence over finishing order will have gone from the factories to the guys pointing the cameras.

MotoGP died in 2008/2009, and unfortunately the guys with big bank accounts don't want to let go.

As for not helping out satellite teams, etc, just ask Lorenzo about the wall. Thats about as plain as it gets, if you need more proof, just look at how the tires suited Jorge's bike in 2012, and how Dani won almost all the races after Casey left. How about Repsol pushing for Bridgestone in 2008 ... who was it that just came in to the league that same year?? who is now benefiting massively from the control tire ... sigh. Can't beat em, slow em down.

TalentFan

August 08, 2013 7:00 PM

@ R6Ryder.

Cal might be 'riding the wheels off it' right now. But his package only needs to be 1% off at this level, and its enough to make his overall race and seasons performance just not quite there, but good enough to take advantage when a factory rider drops the ball.

Of course if Cal drops the ball and makes a mistake himself, then the penalty is just that little bit bigger and harder to overcome.

its only a matter of degree's when the fastest stuff is SO optimised - there is no room for a rider to make the difference anymore when the electronics are the determining factor and the pilot wangs it wide open getting to the apex.

Please realise that the rider isn't in a position now in MotoGP to make anything like the difference that he used to - the tech has taken over and killed the racing.

TalentFan

August 08, 2013 7:09 PM

Its perfectly simple for me...

Do the factory teams have the mechanisms and access in place to be able to adjust the ability of teams that run their motorcycles? Yes or No?

YES. If you lease a factory bike, it comes with lots of strings attached and also a couple of factory technicians with laptops fettling the sparky bits. The leasing team isn't allowed to touch the engine or mess with the engine management - only the factory geeks.

Teams who lease bikes or engines from Yamaha of Honda are NOT independent and do NOT have full control over what their rider (who of course may also be contracted to the factory and not even their employee) gets to put on the grid.

This means that teams actually control what their so-called 'rivals' can and cannot do. That is WRONG and that is NOT a fair racing competition. Simple.

BringbacktheRealMotogp

August 09, 2013 1:35 PM

I wonder if Crutchlow isnt better off signing a one year deal initially with Ducati ?

Tho...maybe they wouldnt allow that

Everyone else in the factory teams comes up for negotiation at the end of 2014 so if he signs a 2 year deal now he will always be out of kilter with a new opportunity - assuming he might at some point try for a honda or yamaha factory ride

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