MotoGP » Suzuki tries chassis changes in latest MotoGP test

"We found a good direction with one of the chassis configurations we had available" - Randy de Puniet.

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August 07, 2013 5:55 PM

Trouble is, they are testing well with an ECU they can't use, and without having to worry too much about engine longevity and fuel consumption. If they are working on chassis then who knows what the engine is set up like.

The lap times they are turning now might well be meaningless. I can't understand why they aren't already running the compulsory ECU - they'll need all the set-up time they can get.

Trying to run just 5 motors and 20 Litres of fuel, and get electronics set-up and the pace of the Honda's (which of course already spent BIG, and HAVE all the data and engineering done already)..... well its a mountain to climb.

I don't understand why Suzuki are coming back under these terms - looks like sending a lamb to the slaughter to me.


August 07, 2013 6:31 PM


It might be a waste of time, but probably not.

They might be able to at least extrapolate some data using their in-house MItsubishi electronics for use with the spec ECU next year.

I'm willing to bet that the MM spec ECU is lightyears ahead of their MItsu system. I remember it always being the problem back in the day.

If everyone has to use the spec ECU, then it just levels the playing field. Of course, it depends on which factory has the best data engineers to squeeze every bit out of the programming.

My biggest worry is that they are coming in 2015, which gives everyone else 1 year to perfect the system in race conditions before Suzuki even gets a try.


August 07, 2013 6:37 PM

What MotoGP needs is for something radical to happen to upset the status quo. Just like happened when Stoner joined Ducati. A rider not even on the factory Yam & HRC radar got a factory ride, with an unfancied newish and relatively unsuccessful Ducati. And blew them all away.

An unlikely lucky pairing that did wonders for both rider and team. Without Ducati Stoner might have been destined to a career on Satellite kit wishing, and without Stoner Ducati might have been destined never to win a WC.

How about an indie team like Paul Bird, with a pneumatic Aprilia, with extra engines and fuel making great use of these assets to overcome electronics and budget deficiencies beating the Factories 5 motors/20L bikes?

It'd be a brave new world! Michael Laverty for WC! I'd even pay BT Sport subscription to see THAT.


August 07, 2013 6:45 PM

@ asefi

I just don't think ANYONE has the time, resources and budget to get competitive under the regulations as they are. Yam & Honda's (esp. HRC) big advantage is that they are already there.

Restricted testing with your top riders (unless you're Honda & can afford a 2x WC as a tester) hamstrings development as well. It's just too damn hard.

I think Yamaha are really at the knife-edge trying to run with HRC now. The latter half of the season may well prove that. Ducati have spent millions just on Rossi alone and make no headway in years.

Its becoming a 1-horse (non) race I think. I'd rather be wrong about this, but my guess is I'm not.


August 07, 2013 6:45 PM
Last Edited 920 days ago

I would say its smarter to get the package up and running and then change the electronics.

Id guess its pretty hard to try evaluate the chassis and other components if your electronics are "raw" and the engine is not doing what its suppose to do. Look Honda in WSBK, they took electronics from HRC MotoGP bike and could not make changes for other components until they got squared away with the electronic glitches.

When you have package that you know works, its easyer to build electronics around it.


August 07, 2013 9:54 PM
Last Edited 920 days ago

Matt2, exactly what they are doing.

However because they have the architecture of the Spec ECU they are working on using the 2d code on that.
Remember its not so much about the ECU the operting code sees to that, the functional code is what counts.
The major difference will be the limitation of I/O.
Think of it like playing the same game on XBox, PS and Wii, the games are the same, or something like XBMC working on multiple platforms the limitation is in the hardware. But the Marelli system according to Tom Jojic along with its software is really good

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