MotoGP » Redding officially confirmed at Gresini Honda


'I'll be racing alongside the best riders in the world, aboard the brand-new Honda production racer, so I know already how steep a learning curve it's going to be' - Scott Redding

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earthskyouch20

August 30, 2013 9:54 AM

Honda are not gonna sell a proddy bike that will beat their multi million pound factory bike. The only thing we can hope is that the extra fuel makes more difference than they anticipate. Remember in 2007 Ducati stole a march with their genius fuel strategy while Honda wrongly focussed on handling. Does anyone know what the proddy bike's bhp is,
compared to factory?

Fozly

August 30, 2013 10:04 AM

Gresini are a good team with strong Honda connections, this is a good move.

The way I view the Honda production bike is its a CRT bike but built by Honda in their spare time. I expect they have a lot of this as its not like the factory Honda needs much ongoing development.

Obviously its not expected to beat the full factory prototypes but Honda love to dominate. In the new second tier class they are going to want their bike to be competitive and beating the Yam's and Aprilla's.

Garcia

August 30, 2013 10:44 AM

He probably will, and I expect Scott will do well too. I agree with Fozly that Honda are not going to build something that is not competitive. Mathew Birt twitted their target was to be 5% less perfomance than factory bike. I think it's a good deal for Scott.

TalentFan

August 30, 2013 10:46 AM

2 years on a Gresini, where even the 'factory' bike of Bautista's has been little more than a test mule for Showa & Nissin (Honda owned Suppliers) to develop kit for the Proddie bike Scott will get. Gresini's 'good relationship' with Honda is a very one-sided one.

So, another rookie with great potential gets a 2-yr contract on a bike that is designed to be less capable than HRC's factory stuff, and can be regulated and controlled by HRC. So even if Scott did pedal it super-well and upset the status quo, you can be sure that it would be made sure it didn't happen again.

Cal may have chosen to ride an uncompetitive bike - but at least he knows Ducati WANT it to be and will work to try and MAKE it be one. Scott just got a bike that cannot compete at the top, and HRC have no intention of it ever doing so.

THIS situation is why I write so many negative posts about MotoGP. Sorry Scott, but you just consigned yourself to midfield mediocrity for 2-years.

TalentFan

August 30, 2013 10:56 AM
Last Edited 362 days ago

AFAIAC - if a rider enters MotoGP, then it is because he wishes to pit himself against the very best of the best. Trouble is, Dorna has seen to it that no-one CAN do this, due to the (manipulated) performance GULF between machines.

Marquez is a very happy bunny - cos he didn't just come straight in and have a truly competitive package, he actually got a package that is one that is markedly BETTER than 95% of his (so-called) competitors. Even if you (wrongly) reckon the Factory Yamaha is as good that'd still mean MM has a bike BETTER than 80% of the field.
Hardly a shocker that he's breaking rookie records looked at like that eh?

Scott? His talent will be an unknown on a MotoGP bike as even his very, very best efforts will be constrained and contained by the lesser equipment package and support he will get.

Fozly

August 30, 2013 11:26 AM

With Redding's passport and the limited options in motogp Gresini is a good place to be.

I fully agree that their is a manipualted disparity in performance between the factories and the other teams. I think the other major teams such as Tech3, Gresini and LCR etc. deserve to be winning the occasional race and not the occasional podium.

When it comes to the production racer we have never been under any illusion that it would be competitive against the factory prototypes but they will want it to succeed against its direct competition the Aprilla,Yamaha engines and probably next years Ducati!

DC

August 30, 2013 12:01 PM

It's taking the pi$$ - all Moto2 champions ended up on works spec bikes when moving up, sure Scotts not won it yet but neither has Esparagaro but he's got a works Yam contract in his pocket already. Scott deserves better, but at least its not a Ducati.

TalentFan

August 30, 2013 12:05 PM
Last Edited 362 days ago

@ Fozly. I take your point, and Scott won't be on the worst bike on the grid.

My beef is that the bike Scott will be on (like Bautista's Gresini Test Mule of the last 2 seasons) will have a pre-determined level set purely to suit HONDA's desire for domination in depth.

Repsol HRC dominate the front, and they want their satellite bikes at a level to trouble factory Yamaha, while their Proddie bike is a Tier-3 level attack to attempt to humble Ducati, and Aprilia.

So its all about what HONDA want, and to hell with the wants/needs of Gresini & the career of the riders on their bikes.

It looks to me like 'Honda' & the phrase "utterly ruthless" are inexorably linked.

Dorna meanwhile couldn't run a bath, are weak, & are undoubtedly making a pile out of prostituting MotoGP out and selling it down the river.

herewego

August 30, 2013 12:20 PM

It will still be the usual suspects up at the front!! The whole set up just isn't fair as most of the riders will just be plodding around doing their best on a bike that will get them nowhere!!

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