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Marc Marquez fastest during Free Practice 1 for the British MotoGP at Silverstone.

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TalentFan

August 30, 2013 1:49 PM

@ paisan

You'll have noticed that I'm a suspicious sod who has NO faith at all in 'fair-play' in MotoGP.

But.... I think Vale is probably in THE best position and Team to get full support. Why?

1. Vale as a media personality as well as a racer has the fans support and therefore Dorna's support - it makes no sense to want to hamstring him - quite the opposite if anything.

2. Factory Yamaha don't have a Title Sponsor who might wish to influence support for a preferred rider.

3. Yamaha need every Constructors WC point they can get - Honda are hammering them right now, so you can't see them willingly giving any away.

It makes no sense to hold Rossi back. Some may not like it, but I think the fact is that JL really IS that good, and he's beating VR fair n square in the team.

Joeski

August 30, 2013 1:54 PM

Hey all,
I am not so tied into the conspiracy stuff. I believe that the money available to teams are in fact quite different but let us face it Yamaha has been winning since 2004 with Rossi and in 2006 Honda got a WC with Nicky. It was not until Stoner in 2011 that Honda would win again. The holder of most money has not changed and Honda with all their resources can be beaten...Yamaha did it multiple years!!!
Honda just has a better package since mid-2012 and Marc is the real deal!! He prove that in the wet in Valencia (2012 Moto2)...the great leveler, last to first. PS he is leading his teammate on same equipment!! in rookie season..... I am a fan but I also want someone to stop his run to make it fun but if he keeps winning like in Brno..I am ok with it because I think he worked for that!

TalentFan

August 30, 2013 1:57 PM

@Lance

"Honda have built a better machine and Yamaha need to catch up"

Plenty say this - just as they do about Ducati, used to do about Suzuki etc.

The thing is - Yamaha for sure would if they COULD.

It doesn't seem to occur to people - but esp. with the constraints on engines and fuel being SO tight - getting fractional extra performance is super-hard and mega-costly.

I simply don't believe that Yamaha can AFFORD to spend enough to match HRC's performance (who have 10x the cash to splash and vastly greater resources).

I believe that no-one can touch Repsol/Honda over this season because of this.

TalentFan

August 30, 2013 2:03 PM

@ joeski

The political, financial, technical situation within MotoGP as well as the balance of power has shifted hugely since 2004 and 2006. its a completely different animal - you might as well compare a 15-yr-old BMW 3-series with a Bugatti Veyron - there is no similarity and no safe comparison can be made.

Marc may well be "the real deal", but then I believe so are several of his peers - despite his talent the distance between him and his opposition owes a lot to the package under him. And "advantage" to MM means by definition "disadvantage" to everyone else (except maybe DP).

Its a sad fact.

Joeski

August 30, 2013 2:08 PM

@ talent fan
I agree with you.

1. On this current bike JL is just plain faster than Rossi. (He may be faster period, bike or not, but Rossi is not past it at all)

2. Rossi has had zero input into Yamaha development since early 2010!!

3. IF Yamaha takes more of Rossi's input for 2014, I believe he will be at the sharper end.

4. If Yamaha develops 2 bikes... JL and Rossi versions both their riders will be up front. If they follow only Rossi's input both their riders will still be upfront because Lorenzo seems to be able to ride anything (ala 2008 - 2010) where Rossi struggles if conditions are not ideal!! (ala now)

5. Assen proves that Rossi can beat DP and MM!! both were fit and on form!! so for sure it is a matter of getting the bike to his comfort and style.

herewego

August 30, 2013 2:20 PM

How can Rossi be past it when he makes up so much during a race? Just shows how hard he can ride. It's just the daft new qualifying that is his problem at the moment.
Valentino is still dangerous on the track and still a very capable rider!!

herewego

August 30, 2013 2:23 PM

Honda are a much bigger company than Yamaha with much more money to spend. Their bikes have had everything possible thrown at them which is why they are so on form ! Yamaha seem to be holding back new parts for some reason, but whatever is going on, both Jorge and Valentino are doing everything they can.

Joeski

August 30, 2013 2:30 PM

@ talent fan
"... balance of power has shifted hugely since 2004 and 2006. its a completely different animal .."

How is it different? Isn't Honda and Yamaha still leading the whole field??? aren't these 4 seats still the premiere seats??? and premiere packages?? The suzuki or Kawa was never in the picture and Ducati only showed flashes.

The money trail still shows Honda as the leader!! and Yamaha has beaten them then and now!! Yamaha did win the title last year did they not???

Yamaha just need to catch up now...

With a real deal sensation like MM Honda are winning!! and on similar equipment I do not believe other rookies/riders could do the same as MM. Bradley Smith is on the bike Dovi stomp the podium with..still waiting for a top five from him! Iannone is on factory DUC bike and cannot beat Nicky or Dovi!!???

So which Rookie are you refering to???? BY peer do you mean other riders in the category? and if so who?

I do not believe Cal could do it or Bautista or Bradl and those

herewego

August 30, 2013 2:31 PM

I also agree that we are privileged to be able to watch a legend like Valentino and a legend in the making in Marquez, we should all just enjoy it while we can. It is not often this happens in any sport - The Master and his Apprentice at work!!

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