MotoGP » Rossi: I’ve never seen a rookie like Marquez


"I've never seen a rookie like him, in all the motorsports I know" - Valentino Rossi.

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Motojunky

September 01, 2013 4:15 AM

Desh.
Not sure what your trying to say?
Do you think MM is better than Stoner in comparitive years or not?
Just to give you a hint in making your dicission. Stoners 1st Moto GP bike was not that far short of a factory bike, and he couldn't for the life of him stop throwing that down the road. lol.

Guna4699

September 01, 2013 4:33 AM
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Stoner on factory yamaha beating Rossi day in day out?

Yamaha is not a honda dude,, stoner cant imagine on getting onboard with yamaha and start winning right away like he did in honda. Churning out the limited resources of yamaha to bring home championships and glory is a different thing,, no one can do that except Rossi... Just being the fastest ever won't be enough,, Rossi has so many things in him...

amakusa

September 01, 2013 4:34 AM

@Burro Amakusa, you're right, it wasn't a 'repsol' Honda but it was a full factory HRC effort with the majority of their most experienced technicians and engineers from the Doohan/Criville years

In year 2000 when Rossi debuted in 500cc motogp, Criville was still racing. Rossi couldnt have had Criville's (ex-Doohan's) crew when he was still in the series, could he? Rossi's Nastro Azzurro satellite 'factory' status would be much like Bradl's team?

Also, the champion was Suzuki's Kenny Roberts Jr. The question of machinery was negligible in 2 stroke era. I dont think KRJR was a fantastic rider, he was just very consistent. Rossi was riding like Marc is doing right now, but the 500cc wasnt very kind to rookie mistakes so unforunately Rossi was 2nd.

Guna4699

September 01, 2013 4:43 AM
Last Edited 477 days ago

I guess 2nd in rookie year with 2stroke 500 cc, with only basic electronics is much much more better than Rookie championship with 4stroke 1000cc with all advanced electronics ranging from safety to performance assistance... Technology is just making things easier.
Marc is defying the learning curve now but would not have defied it with the bikes of early 2000's...

Marc is clearly better than JL and DP, but not Rossi. Rossi's standard has gone down and hence he is getting beaten, rarely had chances to go head to head with marc but the so called average rider on M1 has better records against MM in head to head than the other two aliens. JL admits that he is in the form of his life time and still gets beaten...

ar86

September 01, 2013 4:55 AM

stoner is not so dominant in lower classes like marc did and win consistent on moto2 even harder than on 250cc. marc will beat healthy stoner week in/out even at philip island

KillingTime

September 01, 2013 6:39 AM

I think Moto2 is fundamentally changing MotoGP.

We're seeing some comments like "Rossi on a 500...", which I have no argument against. The 500s were evil beasts that took massive skill to be great on. That's the past, as dead as stone.

But what we're seeing here is a new paradigm shift in the sport.

The Moto2 machines demand a different set of skills than the 500s, or the any of the previous prototypes. So the older rider's skills are becoming obsolete as it were.

Sure, electronics play a role - but they are a part of the sport that has to be conformed to and and made to work to their best effectiveness for each rider & team.

It turns out that Moto2 has been good for MotoGP in that we get to witness a kid come in and make history in a spectacular way.

Now if somehow there could be changes that break the Yamahonda stranglehold on our sport, that would fine by me.

Podster

September 01, 2013 6:55 AM

The photo says it all

MM to Rossi... Go home now, retire and enjoy your toys, if you think Stoner scared you, I haven't even started yet, best you leave while you still have a ride.

Rossi to MM... You know I am fast as well

MM to Rossi... Yes, you keep believing that, now take your medicine and go back to your trailer and remember, dont get in the way of the big boys tomorrow

Codger

September 01, 2013 7:46 AM

Please, Please Crash.net can we have a permanent Stoner thread.
It is getting monotonous with every topic getting into a Rossi/Stoner slagfest. It was bad enough when Casey was riding, now he has taken his ball home it is getting as bad.
To put the record straight Casey had 2 successful years, his first year on the Ducati and his first year on the Honda. The other years his results were patchy and he finished 4th in the Title challenge. Dani, Jorge, and Rossi all beat him.

To all race fans enjoy the memories he gave you and let it rest.

wosideg

September 01, 2013 7:49 AM

Marquez is a breath of fresh air..

His never-say-die attitude and youthful exuberance has transformed the Repsol garage into a place where people actually enjoy turning up for work..a stark contrast to last year.

The positive vibes, Rossi-esque back-slapping and laughing amongst the crew are infectious. The whole paddock seems a much brighter, happier place...and on track, we've seen more racing and battling this season than we have the last three years.

MM is a diamond and will only become more polished as he gains experience. He's set to dominate and become the darling of fans.

The similarity to Valentino is almost uncanny.

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