MotoGP » Hayden to test new spec Ducati after Misano

"You could see the last two races, Dovi on the new bike with the latest spec and me on the old one. Very similar" - Nicky Hayden.

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September 03, 2013 10:57 PM

I do know what chassis I'm speaking of, the 2010 pre aluminium inrtusion.
And when you say this bike was dificult to set up, I just got to laugh, Have they found a solution to the alloy frame nearly 2 years later

Ducati will hopefully still be racing when Rossi retires, for me gp racing is more about the bikes then the riders. Sorry but back to back racing against me, Hailwood Ago and Rossi would just be also rans,Marquez at my age though may be a problem:)


September 04, 2013 12:30 AM
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Just from observing the ducks being ridden around at the moment it looks like they have a very soft stiffness setting on the chassis and/or suspension at the moment alot of movement from the bike under acceleration. While the front seems to be more compliant and give better feedback theres no inroads being made on the competition.

Whatever happened to those rumors about ftr or suter getting onboard with the chassis development side of things.


September 04, 2013 6:25 AM

Banned, you have hit the nail bang on the head! I've been saying this for ages, the Ducati is mis matched to the tyres, hell, they've tried just about everything else. The major factor that stops a bike going faster is grip, the Ducati needs it's own tyre. Don't get me started on Pirelli!!!


September 04, 2013 7:47 AM

Ducati will do nothing until the buy that customer Honda at the end of this year under the Gresini banner and replicate the chassis and engine in house.

Beware Honda, look out for Gobmister or Dovi at the door with that big red Cheque!


September 04, 2013 9:34 AM

An awful lot of discussion about various frames.......surely it's more about engine mounting. According to JB and others anyway. If Audi come up with revised engine crankcases we may see an improvement.
As regards the tyres.....Stoner said they were carp and was riding a Honda, Rossi says the're too squidgy and he's riding a Yamaha. It doesn't really add much to the discussion what Nicky and Dovi think as the Ducati is too far behind anyway. A change in tyres won't get the Ducati up the front, the problems run deeper than that.


September 04, 2013 9:39 AM

I'm surprised that Nicky is testing the updated bike.
On one hand why doesn't he tell them where to stick it?
On the other hand manufacturers normally don't let a rider that is leaving the fold anywhere near the new stuff !?!!


September 04, 2013 10:37 AM

A lot of people seem to get hung up on the material being used to construct the Ducati chassis. Ducati first created an aluminium copy of the carbon front end during Rossi's first season with them replicating the angles and specifications to rule the material out of the equation. The new aluminium part performed the same as the carbon one.
The real reason to switch to aluminium is because it is quicker, cheaper and easier to create the new parts to try.
Moving engine mounting points is far easier when you can weld the new points onto the frame rather than create a whole new one. This becomes especially relevant because previously they could move the mounts on the engine however with the engine restrictions in place this puts impractical delays on trying the parts as you have to wait for a new engine to be allocated.

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