MotoGP » Hayden to test new spec Ducati after Misano

"You could see the last two races, Dovi on the new bike with the latest spec and me on the old one. Very similar" - Nicky Hayden.

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September 04, 2013 12:27 PM

@Codger - "manufacturers normally don't let a rider that is leaving the fold anywhere near the new stuff !?!! "

When the new stuff is indistinguishable from the old stuff I suppose this is less of a concern.


September 04, 2013 2:01 PM

I think Ducati have their heads in the sand - sending Milandri to a therapist rather than admit the front end was all wrong? Come on Ducati - you have some of the most gifted designers and engineers in the world and a top-class, hard working rider! Give Nicky what he wants for the rest of the year then watch him blitz past Cal on a satellite (insert any number of manufacturers/teams here) in 2014...


September 04, 2013 2:24 PM

@Realist 'Someone' did win a World Championship on a Duc. Im not saying Stoner should come back, but u never know when who or how 'someone' that no one expects could turn things around. Ducati is unique, it needs a unique rider, someone unorthodox. Now who could that be? I dont know...


September 04, 2013 5:14 PM

Codger agree that it's surprising to see Hayden trying the newer version of the Duc but sounds like he already tried it before but didn't think it was much better, guess he changed his mind. If they develop one for next year I'm sure he won't get a chance to try it. DM5 I agree with your points but I believe the JBs comments about mounting points should have been included in the current version of the Duc and if not Audi is worse than the previous owner group.


September 04, 2013 5:17 PM

I think that Rossi has headed Ducati in the right direction but unfortunately they don't have the frame knowledge as the Japanese teams hence they're always catching up and obviously haven't by their results. I'm sure if Rossi was younger he would have stayed with Ducati to figure it and believe he would have if they commited the $ and appropriate R&D to it. However, Ducati's snail pace to make changes just makes them fall further back to the top teams.


September 04, 2013 8:13 PM

Just bring back the frameless alumi bike. It's pointless to chase down the japanese at their own game, the only way Ducati is going to come up on top again is to develop their own idea, and then apply pressure to get a tire that works with it.


September 05, 2013 2:40 AM

@ amakusa

I'm aware that "someone" did, but someone also survived jumping out of a plane with no parachute, but most don't. My point is that the bike is flawed in a major way, and it has been proven time and time again. Trying to blame the rider is just silly. Even if "another someone" came and managed to do well, it won't change the fact that the bike is problematic.


September 05, 2013 7:29 PM

Everyone here is talking about the frame, and how they should go back to CF frame and do this and do that. I'll tell you this from an engineer's point of view. composites are not ideal when it come down to having a certain amount of flex dial into a chassis. See Carbon or Fiber Glass,go through curing process which cause the resin to harden therefore becoming very rigid. Aluminum on the other hand is more manageable, you can tune it for more flexibility or rigidity easier the any other composite out here. Remember guys a bikes chassis is an extension of the suspension it acts like a springboard when the bike is leaning on the curves. Just a thought.

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