MotoGP » Marquez, Lorenzo, Pedrosa talk shoulder injuries

“With or without an airbag sometimes you will have injuries because we are riding so fast” - Marc Marquez.

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September 04, 2013 3:12 PM

Modern helmets and leathers are getting better and better all the time.
But they can only do so much.Injury is an occupational hazard in this game and the riders know it and accept it.
When you hit the deck with a force of over 22G the chances are,something is going to give!


September 04, 2013 4:56 PM

ElectronIcs for safety is very good but it keeps riders riding in a state with less caution,, but electronics also fail... May be the new generation of riders may not know what it means to ride on the edge of racing limit with minimal electronIcs,, Rossi crashes far less than others riders do even when he was pushing to the limits in 2010... Experience may be...


September 04, 2013 5:10 PM

These comments about electronics being the cause don't stack up - frankly those peddling that line don't know what they are talking about.
Traction control has saved many a rider who otherwise would have been flung at the scenery in a high side.
And electronics can do nothing to stop or contribute to a low-side.
The old 500cc 2-strokes were far more dangerous - sudden, light-switch power bands and bendy chassis which would propel you off with frequent regularity.
People talk about the suits or protection but it is testament to how good they are that the injuries are so relatively light considering the speed of so many of these accidents.


September 04, 2013 5:20 PM
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re: "The four-stroke crashes are more or less in this way. In the past people were always hurting feet and hands, now with the four-strokes it is more the shoulders."

what, is the 4-stroke landing on TOP of you...?

re: "Also you have to remember that airbags are a new technology that doesn't have a long history and will be perfected in the future.”

I sure hope so 'cause right now the technology is doing f@ck all.


September 04, 2013 5:56 PM

@ LLarry. Bear in mind what Rossi said recently confirming that 75% of the electronics are there to increase pace, NOT to increase safety.

Which HAS to mean that if (when) circumstances result in the situation going 1% beyond what the electronics can manage, that the resultant get off is HUGE and VERY FAST. Which HAS to mean a greater potential for greater injury.

All that said - I don't believe MM was anything like as hurt as the media nonsense hype. MM showed a range of movement in that shoulder without ANY apparent stiffness or distress in Parc Ferme. A case of more "lets big up the show for the dummies, they'll never notice and think MM is the new God like we want them to" school of marketing IMO


September 04, 2013 8:25 PM

I think the most important factor is the performance level of the tyres, it's just too high. Riders constantly seem to get flicked off by a cold edge, expecting grip which isn't there yet.

Electronics won't save you from a high side.

At the end of the day though, humans aren't designed to hurtle around on 200mph missiles


September 04, 2013 9:09 PM

"At the end of the day though, humans aren't designed to hurtle around on 200mph missiles"

Very True!! we make machines function at levels that are beyond our natural abilities to match. So we put in computers to fill the gap. When the computer fails, we have no choice but the suffer the consequences. To me, the nature of all sporting activities is to compete and have challenges between human capabilities. Its fine to have technological tools that humans can compete with, but they should not make any decisions in lieu of human input.


September 04, 2013 10:05 PM

@ TwistedWrist29

Spot on post and well put!

Whether the Mfrs (or Dorna) like it or not (& they don't) fans watch much MUCH more for the human element, the combat between the riders than they do for the machine. Lets face it the bike is just the tool that the rider uses to race with and show his talent.

When the tool is doing the racing and marginalising the riders then we might just as well watch a washing machine group test by Which? Magazine.

Which is of course why MotoGP is marketed all around the riders even though the true emphasis is not on them but the Mfrs.


September 04, 2013 10:41 PM

with all this talk of injuries I can't help but bring the situations of doohan, schwantz and rainey into the picture.....with that mind modern motogp riders technically are at a better advantage injury-wise given the fact the injuries they now face are now less of an career ending event as oppose to the rough days of the 2 strokes where the injuries literally degraded a career....john hopkin's case is a demonstration of this as the guy continue to struggle with injuries.

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