MotoGP » Lorenzo: Braking key in fight with Hondas

“We hope to improve the braking and it will be much easier for me to be a real fighter like before” - Jorge Lorenzo.

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September 05, 2013 5:55 PM

Even Stoner had had enough of Ducati.

There's a challenge..then there's banging your head against a wall.

I bet you two lemons had Rossi as a washed up mid-packer with Dovi turning Ducati's fortunes around a guarantee?

Oh dear..


September 05, 2013 6:10 PM
Last Edited 967 days ago


I can play another Rossi game here:

"The bike Rossi rode at Welkom wasn't the same bike that Biaggi rode the year before".

See? Easy.

Oh and about Ducati listening. Hayden put that myth to rest, by telling us that Ducati was really listening ONLY to Rossi.


September 05, 2013 6:18 PM

Clutching at straws now Wosi.
I have never accused Val of being washed up.He has lost his mojo in my opinion.
He just never pushed the Ducati hard like it had to be ridden to get results.
Casey did and thats why you and your ilk have such a hatred for him.
Personally,i think the 2 years Val spent at Ducati have knocked the stuffing out of him.He is not the force in the sport that he once was.And his results over the last 3 years back this up.I would love to see him do well again and i have said this many times, so dont accuse me of saying things that i have not said!


September 05, 2013 7:05 PM

When Rossi was winning his titles I think its fair to say that the opposition was not as strong as it is now.
Stoner could do things that I have never seen any other riders do in a corner.
The Honda appears to have solved the wheel chatter (or Bridgestone) that has made a big difference to the competitiveness of the Honda. You can post as much as you like but barring accidents e.t.c MM will win the championship this year with probably DP 2nd and JL 3rd with VR a distant 4th


September 05, 2013 7:45 PM

Jlo there is nothing wrong with the brakes but the chassis surely needs improvement to help braking and most importntly u need to uplift your level because MM right now is at your level in his rookie season .So you will be defeated in this season and the next ones which are yet to come !


September 05, 2013 8:16 PM
Last Edited 967 days ago

EDIT by CRASH.NET! Please moderate your comments.

I think i have the right to respond when someone throws insults at me!
But i see that you have deleted that comment now,so fair enough.


September 05, 2013 8:35 PM


And why was it that Rossi didn't rode Max's Yamaha? Because Rossi and the rest developed the bike, tada.
Even know what Rossi did to improve handling in his final year at Yamaha before he moved to Ducati? He made his wheelbase longer to improve grip/traction. That Nicky/Ducati story is not true, Rossi was the lead rider in the Ducati team and they promised to listen to him. But Rossi didn't ask for only an aluminium frame, he also asked to get the engine apart from being a part of the frame itself. Rossi rode Stoner's bike and until the end he had the same feeling with the bike lots of understeer and other problems and a lack of front end feel. You should read some more articles before you post something. It's funny to read what you're typing, but it's worrying that you are believing in what you say is the right thing.


September 06, 2013 1:37 AM

1. For you semantics guys: when one refers to a rider "developing the bike," most normal people know that this doesn't mean actually engineering the bike. It means providing input on what it doing and what it needs to do to allow said rider to use its full potential. Try to remember that, ok.

2. In 2003, first year of the 4-strokes, the Yamaha was garbage. It didn't get one podium, let a alone a win. That's because they put a 990cc motor in their 2-stroke chassis. The 2004 bike was originally developed by 250 riders. Rossi and Burgess showed up, told Yamaha what to change, chose the motor with the irregular firing crank, and made history.

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