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Former MotoGP star Casey Stoner's latest test with Honda thwarted by wet conditions at Motegi

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Ausrossi

September 07, 2013 4:32 AM
Last Edited 321 days ago

Burrow,

"I wouldn't get too caught up in Jorges comments as he was comparing Stoner towards the end of his career when MM is young and full of vinegar in his debut year with EVERYTHING laid on for him and very little to deal with except ride the bike."

Seriously Casey retired at age 26 peak of his career. There is a fair swathe of anecdotal evidence to support the view that Casey was a quitter. As for Marquez V Stoner one slightly agressive pass and that would be Stoner dealt. Also you forget Rossi won 2 WCs during that period also and unlike any rider in the last 12 years defended his.

TedG

September 07, 2013 4:35 AM

It is amazing how these threads degenerate.
Anyone who thinks there isn't huge value in having a tester that can ride a bike to the absolute limit, has another think coming. These races are won with 1/10s of a second in a lap. Being able to know how the bike deals with it, is worth it's weight in gold. The bad part is if the Hondas get any better the racing it going to get boring. Yamaha needs Stoner as a tester more than Honda does.

dacron

September 07, 2013 5:20 AM
Last Edited 321 days ago

Ausrossi.
look at it however you want but the reality is people get sick of things after a while and move on , thats what he did it would seem .
you on the other hand should take a leaf from his book eh.
you been spouting the same drivel since the day he announced his retirement like you have some proof of weakness or something.
keep puffing your chest out like a hero.
go on crash delete my bating post like i care.

OnceWaz

September 07, 2013 6:09 AM

'Anecdotal evidence'...
Let's see some then Ausrossi.
As someone suggested, let's see MM when he's been in the game for 6 years. Ridiculous to suggest it's anything other than just being a little smarter with age.
On one hand you regularly say race wins at the end of the year don't count and on the other you say settling for a safe position is 'quitting', contradiction after contradiction.
By your reckoning, there are a lot of quitters out there.

Objective

September 07, 2013 8:08 AM
Last Edited 321 days ago

I can't understand the vitriol leveled at Stoner in a thread about a washed out test. That a story like this can get more comments than many threads about the actual championship speaks volumes about the level of fanboyism on Crash.

Why not just enjoy the racing and support all the current riders who are pushing themselves to the extreme limits?

Codger

September 07, 2013 9:35 AM

@Dacron
In the years that all 4 raced together :-

1 Jorge 60 wins + podiums.
2 Dani 55 wins + podiums.
3 Casey 54 wins + podiums.
4 Rossi 42 wins + podiums.

Looking at it a different way. Titles :-
Jorge = 2x 1st: 2x 2nd: 1x 4th.
Rossi = 2x 1st: 1x 3rd: 1x 6th: 1x 7th.
Casey = 1x 1st: 1x 2nd: 1x3rd: 2x 4th.
Dani = 2x 2nd: 2x 3rd: 1x 4th.

Lots of external factors, I know, but Jorge clearly ahead.
I hope the headache has gone. I've got one now compiling this. :)

SavageAmusement

September 07, 2013 9:39 AM

Objective...

Maybe people don't understand why a gifted rider who made the brave decision to walk away from his vocation because of politics is dipping his toe in the water again???

I don't get it myself TBH.

Maybe taking part in a few track days or something might give him the buzz he is missing because him doing anything that involves DORNA is going to look like a massive climb-down...

Better still, he could head over to the Isle of Man TT and do something that Rossi never had the cojones to try? He was always accused of time-trialling and there is no better venue for such activities...

The petition starts here. Who's with me???

RaceCrafter

September 07, 2013 9:51 AM
Last Edited 321 days ago

about Rossis competition, proof that he was fighting DADS ARMY FROM 2001-2006
interview courtesy of souperbikeplanet. Interview with Wayne Rainey 2004:

Soup: Rossi's competition doesn't seem to be as strong as the competition you had when you raced.

WR: You look at the riders who were racing then, they all won Championships. Eddie won four Championships, Schwantz won a Championship, Mick won five Championships, and I won three. In the early 90's, it was very, very intense. When you lined up on Sunday, nobody really knew who was gonna win.

I think, nowadays, most of the guys plan their strategy around where Rossi is. If Rossi's in eighth place, they just go 'Well, we'll just kinda wait for him.' And, if he's in first place, 'Well, we'll just try to stay with him.' It's really a shame because I believe Rossi hasn't been pushed. I think he can go faster than he's going. If you look at what Sete's done in his career, I think this is the first Championship he's actually ever raced for.

RaceCrafter

September 07, 2013 9:52 AM

continued

.....He might have raced for one Championship, the Ducados Open maybe once, but he's never won a championship, and that's very rare,to go into Grand Prix racing without ever winning a Championship of any sort

so there you go, proof that even legends like wayne rainey think that Rossi had it easy from 2001-2006, oh dear, the truth is exposed once again

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