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"I gave myself the best chance possible and made a great start but I nearly highsided five or six times in the first three laps” - Bradley Smith.

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Noriben

September 15, 2013 10:33 PM
Last Edited 313 days ago

A total waste of M1!!!!!!

Yamaha should dismiss him immediately, or give him an ultimatum to show tangible improvement or be fired at least. Sunday final is not the place for gathering data or learning session which would never produce any descerible improvements!!!

Fullofit

September 16, 2013 9:09 AM

@ 69transam

It was silly when they signed him up for this ride 2 years ago on the back of no results.

It was completely stupid to actually give him the bike this year after he showed in testing that he is out of his depth.

But, it's absolutely mental to imagine that his contract doesnt contain a performance clause that would have allowed the team to replace him already, never mind what happens next year.

Noriben

September 16, 2013 6:05 PM

@Cammyspop

I know you are among those who stubbornly refuse to learn how to do logical collation and really like to be deceived by tricks. It's about time you learned how to count numbers - 17 is bigger than 15 and 12 is less than 15.

There were 17 prototypes in 2011 - Cal couldn't get any points even when he defeated several (experienced) guys back in his rokie year.

There are 12 prototypes in 2013 - Smith is automatically given a minumum of 4 points in each race even when he finishes on the last among all those prototypes. See who's ranked bellow him.

I'm not saying that Cal's first year performance was spectacular, I would say it was admittedely dismal and many said so too. But It was not as catastrophic as Smith's performance he has shown so far.

SmokinHaddock

September 17, 2013 11:41 AM

Noriben,

I don't know if Smith will make it, but your use of statistics proves nothing. If you are going to get mathmatical then you need to start taking into account the number of variables rather than just using simple 5th grade maths.

For example, a simple piece of analysis (and I am not contending that it is proof) shows that Brad is currently either beating or finishing just behind the factory Ducatis. If Cal had achieved that he would in fact have finished higher in his rookie season, regardless of all the other prototypes (many of which of course were very much second or third tier bikes....another variable).

Racing just isn't that simple to analyse. Judge Brad at the end of the season. 5 races to go, and yes he has work to do.

Noriben

September 17, 2013 1:28 PM

@SmokinHaddock"
"Racing just isn't that simple to analyse. "

That's exactly what I have been trying to make Brad supporters to realize. So you believe the argument "Smith has been doing well because he's ranked higher than Cal in his rookie year" is complehensive analysys in which various foctors are taken in acount?

Sorry, but I must say that you're contradicting yourself.

Cammyspop

September 23, 2013 12:28 PM
Last Edited 305 days ago

@Nobrien. You oversimplify everything in order to try to make it look like (a) you're right (b) you're intelligent and (c) you know something about racing.

My point was clearly too subtly complex for you to comprehend. It was not whether Smith is better than Crutchlow. It was that there were people out there calling Cal a failure on his first season, and look where he is now.

Some even argued that his 12th place was undeserved, given that his fourth in the final race was something of a freak based largely on the number of riders who didn't take part or failed to finish. However I don't agree with that since he only jumped over Alvaro to take twelfth and Alvaro didn't deserve to finish that race.

My point is that you can't dismiss a rider based on a season's performances. Some people were trying to dismiss Rossi half way through his first season in 500s.

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