MotoGP » 'Details' for Dovizioso, 'information' for Hayden


“Today's test was interesting because you can always work on small details after a race” - Andrea Dovizioso.

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Stace

September 17, 2013 1:50 PM

Another test another "We didn't bring any new parts" statement.

Seriously... I love Ducati (have always dreamed of a 748...), but they always seem to be playing with the electronics when there is a much deeper problem to the bike than that. I just don't see how this is going to move them forward :(

shamarone

September 17, 2013 1:54 PM

re: "he worked mainly on 'electronic and software strategies', larger brake discs"

re: "We didn't try any new parts, but we did some small tests with the balance"

re: "we just worked through the day and pretty much tested everything we wanted to try. We didn't have anything too major, just some different set-up options"

re: "On a positive note, we tried the new hard Bridgestone tyre"

re: "In general, we didn't find any big breakthroughs"

wow, they tested a lot of stuff. but do you hear jacksh!t about a seamless gearbox...? no you do not.

Nunnmeister

September 17, 2013 6:14 PM

@shamarone They've been seamless for a while.

As a Ducati fan, I really hope they put the effort in and design a decent bike for next year. There's a video on youtube of Randy Mamola explaining the problem to a bunch of guys. He says the engine's actually too far forward (I thought it was the opposite). The Honda's is in the right place, hence the pigtail exhaust, whereas the Duke's is just straight. Rather interesting...

Type this into youtube, can't paste the address 'Randy Mamola talks about the MotoX2 lap and Ducati's MotoGP program' Top result

I'm praying that they're working on the fundamentals for the 2014 bike.

jambop

September 17, 2013 6:49 PM

If you want to ask any rider about lost ground ask Dovi! He finished 40 seconds behind yesterdays winner on a bike Rossi placed second 4 seconds behind winner JLo. What is his excuse got a bad start boo hoo ! ?? And why is he not being torn a new one for this performance? Rossi has taken major criticism for what he did and did not do while at Ducati, Dovi on the other hand "well the bike's crap isn't it" he is well under performing on that bike! And still we hear how shoite Rossi is and he should retire... really, I mean really? There is non factory rider who would do any better on that Yamaha than Rossi fact if you can't see it you are blind. The simple fact is the three at the front are just a bit faster than Rossi. Having said that had Espagaro not jumped the start and snagged Rossi I am sure he would have done better.

Vilas46

September 17, 2013 7:17 PM

jambop

Agree 100%, Dovi did a good worck at the Tech3 and honestly speacking with that Boost i think he could had been doing has good has Rossi on the standings, but you can t even compared, if you understand that you have 2 riders that will do more less exacly the same but one was 4 times World Champion with the M1 was on the program since the Start until 2010.. Who would you choose for number 2 rider? Dovi or Rossi? i mean it could only be Rossi, Cal was not even on this equation because he loss to Dovi.. The realaty is that Dovi is tasting the venon that Rossi was is upgrade after upgrade but when we speack about improvements they all come with the DETAIL STUFF... Thats why they are falling its to many details..lolo Dovi is a mature rider he fail to Conquer Honda because Honda new that he would not do better then Pedrosa if Pedrosa was Fit, but they understand is consistente atitute and Dovi still beat Pedrosa on points in 2011 but was not enaught to convince Honda.. He did well on

Vilas46

September 17, 2013 7:18 PM

He did well on the Tech3 but maybe that Tech3 allready had the potencial last year to have the results he had and 4sure Yamaha judge Dovi capabilatys, if they sign Rossi for 2 years can only mean that they where not impressed.. This year Cal also had a True bike on is hands where Yamaha could wach is potencial but Cal still fails to keep himself together on a weekend of Motogp.. maybe thats why they dont worrie to much on loss him.. Yamaha whants Espargaro and to sign him the way they did only show Yamaha confidence on is talente.. I guess Espargaro can join Yamaha factory in 2015 or later we will see how Rossi go in 2014 but 4sure is Espargaro future

Cammyspop

September 23, 2013 11:25 AM

Ducati will never admit that the 'L4' engine layout is the major problem with that bike. The engine is just too long to move about between the wheels to get the correct weight distribution, as such they are stuck with a handling problem that won't go away. The new parts they need boil down to a new engine, a more traditional V4 would do it without too much work. The bottom end being easier to rework than the top.

I'm sure they know this, but find it hard to admit that they are wrong. I really don't think there is anything significant wrong with the rest of the bike, which is why they can't come up with new parts to solve the problem. They see the L4 as their USP, but what's the point in a USP if it's costing you races?

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