MotoGP » Rossi: We struggled more than expected


'Today we suffered quite a lot, especially this afternoon I had quite a lot of issues' - Valentino Rossi

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LanceTheHooliganAlbon

September 27, 2013 4:35 PM

With the first race of the season it looked as if Rossi was going to be competitive once again on the Yamaha M1. However as the season has gone on it has not been such u huge success for Rossi. It's been very disappointing. He has done well at some races but fighting for 4th is not what I expected of this champion :(

Guna4699

September 27, 2013 5:06 PM

Yamaha has totally messed up with those brakes in past two seasons,, it seems they cared least about brakes in that time... never heard both yamaha riders complain about brakes this much in earlier years.

Issues with brakes costed lonely fourth for Rossi in misano. Brakes being the prime strength and lethal weapon of Rossi, his not upto the mark performance this season is not without a reason.

shamarone

September 27, 2013 5:06 PM

re: "Today we suffered quite a lot, especially this afternoon I had quite a lot of issues, especially one with the brakes"

like I said, even with the M1's 4th plug wire connected, it has a snowball's chance of out braking a 213. at the end of 900+ meter straight, Honda's layout makes it like an F18 hooking a pendant.

LLarry

September 27, 2013 5:10 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Yamaha use exactly the same Brembo brakes (& Ohlins forks) that both Honda & Ducati employ?
Really, isn't it time to stop trotting out these excuses for consistent under-performance?

shamarone

September 27, 2013 5:25 PM

re: "but doesn't Yamaha use exactly the same Brembo brakes (& Ohlins forks) that both Honda & Ducati employ?"

no. there's some overlap on the rotor diameters, thicknesses, but that's about it. ohlins doesn't serve "free lunch". the teams shell out BIG MONEY for bespoke, and that's exactly what they receive. electro-boffins eat your heart out.

shamarone

September 27, 2013 5:35 PM

re: "Yamaha has totally messed up with those brakes in past two seasons"

brakes is a touchy subject. too many other variables at play to point the finger and just say... BRAKES...!

"braking effectiveness" on the other hand, is a combination of chassis geometry (cg), grip level at the contact patch, suspension spring and damping strategies, oil viscosity, fork tube diameter, rotor diameter, rotor thickness, lever ratio, fuel load, tyre air pressure, wheelbase, etc.

Guna4699

September 27, 2013 6:17 PM

Yes braking effectiveness has quite a lot of other factors affecting it, but a problem is a problem everything in motogp bike are inter related...

In other words I would say yamaha didn't care much about stopping the bike effectively as they were fully focused in smoothly flowing into the corner like a butter on bread with speed as much as possible...

During Rossi's days stopping the bike got prime importance, whatever they did to the bike they made sure effective stopping will remain least affected.

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