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Garcia

October 01, 2013 2:26 PM

Bradley is not sitting on the fence here.

I think like Bradly, everyone agrees that the incident on Sunday was a total accident and does not deserve any kind of penalty in itself.

The real issue and the reason why there has been so much talk about it is obviously Marquez's record combined with the 'out of control' way he has been riding the Honda, almost clipping the rider in front of him two or three times per race.

In my opinion being an aggressive rider does not mean being a dangerous rider, there is a difference. With Marquez unfortunately it's getting to a point in which he's starting to look like he could be a real danger to others. I don't think the safety commission can afford to ignore that, specially because if something like this happens again and a rider gets hurt, responsibility could lie more with them than with Marquez.

I didn't think at first there would be any penalty issued but now I'm not so sure.

SmokinHaddock

October 01, 2013 3:01 PM

mrfill,

I'm guessing its more to do with logistics and being close to his French team, his support network (Crafar lives in Andorra, does he provide some coaching?) and all the Spanish rounds. I can't imagine the second tier Tech3 rider is pulling big bucks just yet.

TalentFan

October 01, 2013 3:37 PM

Interesting as usual. Bradley is unusual as well in that he seems (however politely) to stick his neck out and say what he means re Marquez.

Given the amount of bashing BS gets for just about everything then I say fair play to him for being forthright and not fudging about it.

Marc is a difficult problem. What BS says is spot on. All MM incidents in MGP so far haven't been huge when looked at individually (except Silverstone IMO where they let him off lightly again - cos even if he HAD not seen the Yellows a proper penalty would make him pay more attention next time). But cumulatively the overview of Marc's riding give the impression of 'dangerous'.

Not sure how Race Direction CAN deal with this hot potato - a tricky one. Do nothing and there's an incident & RD get blamed. Do something without sufficient cause & there'll be an outcry. Hmmm.

B. Andy

October 01, 2013 4:14 PM

"All of Marc's race mistakes are always racing incidents and he does well to keep himself out of harm's way, but all of them put together deserve some sort of penalty. "

Pathetic. By the Bradley rules? Not sure there is a rule that points this out and we cannot speak about "cumulative" mistakes.

Boy o boy, MM will only get better. It's more easy to make a fast rider safe than a slow rider to make fast.

Bradley will never be in the upper Liga. Next year I expect Espargaro to beat him on the same machine. In 2015 bye bye Tech3.

TalentFan

October 01, 2013 4:32 PM

@ B. Andy

Race Direction are looking at MM's record clearly, cos the DP thing alone doesn't warrant attention. So 'pathetic' or not, this isn't Bradley's doing, he's just commenting on it when asked, & what he said makes sense.

There seems to be quite a bit of agreement here in the paddock about MM being a bit of a loose cannon too. Ok, you can cry foul, jealousy, or even under-handed tricks to try to say that MM being investigated is unfair if you like, but Race Direction ARE considering it serious enough to warrant this action, and it seems (I didn't know) that the other riders opinions on Marc's behaviour are being sought & could have some impact on the decision.

IMO, you just wanted to have a pop at Brad, & this gave you an 'excuse'. Pathetic.

SmokinHaddock

October 01, 2013 4:36 PM

B.Andy, that's a bit of a misquote. You can stop a fast rider 'crashing', but that's not what we are talking about here. Its more about the risk he poses to other riders than to himself, although of course that also matters.

Its a tough one though isn't it. Do we have a cumulative score to prevent a big accident, or does that amount to turning into something too safe? At least Brad has an opinion. Better to have a reasoned argumentt rather than slag him off. Why don't you think an accumulation of near misses matters? Isn't it indicative of someone who is likely to hurt someone in the future? You can't get away with near misses forever. Law of probability and all that.

Gilles

October 01, 2013 6:18 PM

The point here is that BS says he hasn't seen the incident. So why put your tuppence worth in then?
@Garcia what o you mean when you say almost clipping people, is that the same as almost scoring a goal?

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