MotoGP » Casey Stoner rides Honda MotoGP Production Racer

"We also tried the production bike which was more impressive than I predicted" - Casey Stoner.

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October 03, 2013 7:00 PM

@ pxcmac

Why do you say that the Mfr's are an important part of the equation? I'd really like to know, cos I haven't yet seen a strong argument that holds water & that has no counter-argument - its just seems to be because its an accepted truth.

One that I challenge. Earlier posters are asking why Mfrs are allowed to have unfair advantages, and its a good question. One that Dorna cannot answer satisfactorily, cos there ISN'T a satisfactory answer to it.

Its easy to see why Mfr's WANT any advantage they can get. As I said, Businesses want to crush competition & its not their concern if others don't have a fair chance.

It IS Dorna's business to see to it that ALL entrants have a fair chance. They do not - just the opposite.

Why are Mfr's vital? A good question surely?


October 03, 2013 7:07 PM

My argument? For a MotoGP without factory teams...

If ALL teams were Independents raising their own sponsorship like LCR, Gresini, Aspar etc., they could then source their chassis or build their own.

Motors? Just like CRT's, use a Production based motor and adapt your machine within the rules. WSBK is nigh on as fast as MotoGP, so uber-exotic all-prototype engines are NOT needed.

No rider aids, so less Hp is needed.
Fixed rpm limit and no fuel restriction.

Go racing.

With a fair & affordable series sponsors & teams would (IMO) be climbing over one another to secure a grid slot in MotoGP. The Mfrs with their massive budgets & monopoly making it impossible for indies to thrive is throttling motoGP, not keeping it alive IMO.


October 03, 2013 11:17 PM

Ban this ban that, don't give the works teams the advantage.

If we behaved like this and always had then we would still be using 500 aircooled singles. The Gilera and MV's would have been banned, as would the MZ two strokes.

Are we really such luddites?


October 04, 2013 2:28 AM

So if Casey had taken 2013 contract he would have earned 22 million from Honda and probably 6 or 7 million from personal sponsorship. That makes Rossi earnings this year look pretty poor. Then even if he was putting around just for the money Rossi would have looked even worse this year. Stoner at 95% would be still be faster than what Rossi has done on the Yamaha this year.


October 04, 2013 2:37 AM

"Motogp is Prototype racing ...."

No, it is anything but prototype racing.
It is a formula that is described by strict rules.
Bore size, number of cylinders, must be naturally aspirated etc etc ad nauseum.


October 04, 2013 3:48 AM
Last Edited 863 days ago

i'm just happy to hear that he thinks the production racer is that good , if it comes from caseys mouth then you can bet it really is a good bike as he would no doubt say it is crap if he thought it was.
as for those saying casey takes bikes backwards! take a look at this years rcv , i bet the same people have said this years honda is the far superior bike on the grid this year . ....think about that for a moment.

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