MotoGP » Casey Stoner rides Honda MotoGP Production Racer

"We also tried the production bike which was more impressive than I predicted" - Casey Stoner.

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October 05, 2013 1:38 PM
Last Edited 860 days ago

Talent Fan, what guarantee is there Aprilia won't overstretch their resources? It happens all the time, some know when to stop, some don't until it's too late an they go to the wall.
Yamaha went closer than many think! Why don't you get onto the 'overpaid riders' bandwagon, I think it's more relevant than trying to make motoGP slower than the bikes in our garages! I'm a Stoner fan but $15M for a season! Money better spent supporting another 4 bikes on the grid in my opinion.
DORNA push the celebrity, the manufacturers want to sell bikes, one of these has been the same for 6 decades, it's up to you to decide what excite you more.


October 05, 2013 5:10 PM

Make the proddie bike the one to have, you say. How would you go about doing that I wonder........maybe you could
make everyone use a supplied ecu
A year later you could make everyone use the supplied software on the supplied ecu
Now that you have everyone using your ecu and software you could decide what sort of rider aids were available, say tc, turn by turn mapping etc.
Unfortunately they have only taken the first step and I doubt yam and honda will let them take the 2nd and 3rd steps


October 05, 2013 8:52 PM

Sad isnt it.
The sport we all love and are so passionate about has turned into a fiasco over the years.I still love to watch these guys ride their hearts out but i know it is in a series that has gone to the dogs.
The pinnicle of the sport has become the series only 4 riders have any hope of winning.And realistically it has become 2!
Talentfan,i too will be probably be calling it a day after this year.BT arent getting my money either.


October 05, 2013 11:45 PM

all this unfair boohoo about factory vs non factory is a load of crap. the manufactures pay to play, honda pay 40+ million a year to play, if they want to invest the money, by all means let them, and if they win, good for them.
its simple to level the playing feild a bit more, however dorna need to grow some balls to do so.

fixxed capacity engine, open piston amounts/deisgns, open fuel limits, 12 engines a year for all teams, open tyre brands (no fly in specials- 3 types of tyres per tyre manufacture for the year) open ecu hardware and software, but limited to 10 sensor inputs total.

the excessive restrictions to the class is whats making it too expensive for others to play. new manufactures have to come up with ways that are different to honda/yamaha to make their bike work with the same tyres, in order to beat them. they also have to figure out how to make a 260hp engine only drink 20lt of fuel whilst making 5 of them last a years racing. all this takes sooooooo much R&D to get go


October 05, 2013 11:47 PM

all this takes sooooooo much R&D to get going. hence why more manufactures wont play!

open things up and you will see more innovation and MORE MANUFACTURES works bikes on grids, thus MORE RIDERS ON MORE CAPABLE MACHINERY, instead of 2nd/3rd rate machines.

IMO the 990's set of rules were the closest to the best possible rules we have had since the start of the 4 stroke era!



October 06, 2013 1:45 AM

never seen so much hysterics on a thread before!!
and to top it off so much speculation based on fear at the sight of the new production honda .
this bike will be sold with a variety of packages available to the buyer , ranging from basic package to advanced support packages , once a team buys one they can do whatever they want with it , they can even drop pneumatic valves and a seamless shift in if they want , the standard ECU can be programmed however they want as well .
pretty hard to please most people these days , honda and yam have answered the wishes of the public and made a huge and expensive effort to get rid of the hated crt waste littering the tracks and this is just a start , eventually we will have all prototype quality machines competing giving teams and riders an improved chance to show their worth without paying 4 million just for a bike.
sometimes just being appreciative saves the trouble of thinking up all kinds of moaning blabber.


October 06, 2013 1:52 AM, how about a poll?
Would motoGP survive/die and be able to attract top riders/sponsors if it were no faster than WSBK?

Some young spuds here might like to rethink that it wouldn't happen. WSBK was slightly slower in the early/mid 90's but still attracted many times the crowds as GP! It WAS the 2 wheel sport of choice.


October 06, 2013 4:41 PM

The most important information regarding this test is the time difference between the bikes. I'd say Honda won't let it be less that 1.5 a lap. That's what stoner is verifying. That time difference plus the difference to the aliens will be too much for me. They'll have to leave room do the satellite bikes too.
MotoGP sucks.

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