MotoGP » Honda would 'stop' if software is controlled


“If all the regulations say, 'You cannot develop software, everything is fixed'. Immediately Honda stop racing in MotoGP” - Shuhei Nakamoto, HRC.

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bikenutter

February 12, 2014 11:05 AM
Last Edited 301 days ago

The BMW S1000RR came out without any 'valuable MotoGP level R&D' and runs laps around the Fireblade in terms of electronics and outright power. I refuse to believe that the MotoGP R&D team are taking any load of the road bike development team. Honda are at the pinnacle of MotoGP but sinking into the abyss of motorcycle development behind its European counterparts. I don't know, maybe the new RCV road bike will be a game changer but I don't see how a spec ECU would've changed it.

myselff

February 12, 2014 11:17 AM
Last Edited 306 days ago

Good riddance Honda! BMW was one of the most vocal manufactures (but not the only one) about Honda (and Yamaha) destroying the MotoGP and making an entry for other manufactures very unattractive and nonsensical.

Welcome back Kawasaki, Suzuki, MV Agusta, Aprilla, BMW etc.

myselff

February 12, 2014 11:17 AM
Last Edited 309 days ago

And they better care what BMW thinks, because they are the "market", along with Kawasaki and all the other major marques that consider the MotoGP game not worth the candle right now.

This is the balancing act all racing orgs have to play, and it's most evident at the "formula" level. Yachts, motorcycles, or cars - why do you suppose that we call the highest levels of racing "formula"? Why aren't they just "the best you can make"? Because "the best you can make" inevitably and almost immediately becomes "the best you can afford to make".

The "formula", while usually expressed in technical specs, is purposed as a cost containment measure. If you don't cap the cost, you will quickly end up with one dominant manufacturer. That can work for a spec series, but for selling the product, multiple teams are desirable to generate rooting/betting interest in the fanbase.

myselff

February 12, 2014 11:19 AM
Last Edited 307 days ago

cont.
Worse (well, not worse from the financial perspective, but from the tech perspective), once you have that market dominance, development tends to stagnate due to lack of competition.

So, you need the rules to reflect a cost cap low enough to induce a crowd-pleasing number of competitors (manufacturers, not entrants) to actually compete. MotoGP is pretty clearly on the high side of this number right now. BMW complaining is an indicator of that, as is the limited number of factories participating. If an Erik Buell bitches about the cost of entry being too high, you can write him off as a marginal player. You can even say that about Ducati, though they rely so heavily on their racing heritage for marketing that their opinion should carry more weight than their market segment and budget warrant. But when heavyweights with deep pockets like BMW and Kawasaki opt out, you have a good indication that your balance is skewed.

myselff

February 12, 2014 11:21 AM

cont. (last)
So no, you shouldn't listen to the companies like Honda that are perennially dominant and going to be there regardless - why should they bitch about less competition?!? You need to listen to the marginal players like BMW. If they really ARE marginal, like Buell, you can ignore them. If they are selling the top bike on the retail market in your target segment, and heavily invested in racing right now, you probably shouldn't disregard their complaints entirely.

That was a fantastic copypaste forum post about the whole dilemma.

Liam48

February 12, 2014 11:25 AM

I'm sorry Honda but if you're going to act like that then I won't miss you at all.

It'll be a shame if they left but he control ECU & 24 litres of fuel would be a huge benefit to MotoGP's spectacle and it could give us better racing.

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