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MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb talks new Open class, the 'final target' for MotoGP rules and the possibility of Honda leaving over the issue of ECU software...

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RossL

February 21, 2014 2:13 PM

"The final target is that everyone will use the same [Open] equipment and the playing field from the technology point of view will be more level. The factories will always win every race. But the other guys would be a little bit closer."

Does he mean the factory teams winning every race even when they switch over to open ecu?
Because if that's the case, and he's happy with that, it's still not good enough. MotoGP will only be truly great again when satellite teams can beat the factory teams. We need the equivalents of Giberbernau, Melandri, Capirossi, Barros and countless others from back when racing was truly interesting to be able to compete on satellite machines.
If Honda and Yamaha are unhappy with that, let them leave.They'll come.crawling back when the racing ismore exciting and more popular.

TrueFan

February 21, 2014 3:38 PM

I'd prefer to see a more open slather concept. Lets see.
You've got 20 litres of a specified fuel per race, and set amounts per free practice session, qualifying and warm up.
You can trade x millilitres of fuel for y grams of nitrox
The minimum bike weight is 150 kgs.
The race starts at 3 pm.
Go your hardest.

That might produce some innovation, and real prototypes.
It would still resolve to the usual combatants though, because only the riders that are able to use the advantages will profit from them.

Or, you could put the constraints they've developed in place, call it prototype racing when it's really a tightly controlled formula, and still have people complain because their favourite rider can't win, or the one that wins "doesn't have enough charisma".

Tetley

February 21, 2014 4:40 PM

" However manufacturers would lose the chance to develop their own software technology, something Honda views as vital to future road machines and a major justification for its participation in MotoGP."
I don't believe that is a valid reason. Honda have test tracks and test riders and test teams who develop the systems and they will continue irrespective of whether or nor Honda stay in MotoGP. What's more, their tests and test teams are run under conditions which can be replicated and are more relevant to road bikes.
I'm sure this ECU issue is only a bargaining tool for Honda, and can't be a major factor in their decision process when their boardroom Kareoke is playing "Should I stay or should I go now ?".

LaughingGas

February 21, 2014 4:55 PM

It's called competition. Its supposed to be the pinnacle of technology like F1 now its going down the same hill as f1. Lets people invent things and lets see what ends up on tomorrows road bikes to possibly save lives and make 2 wheels more entertaining.

And if Honda leave is it really going to be worth watching. Its not just about the riders i's about the manufacturers as well.

shamarone

February 21, 2014 4:56 PM
Last Edited 209 days ago

re: "The ultimate goal is to have all MotoGP machines racing under the same technical rules, based on the Open class - but that won't be possible until at least 2017."

sure, that's the "ultimate" goal. however (comma) what you guys are again failing to ask yourselves is that a REALISTIC goal...? 2 different things this. conceptually you're repeating the same mistake as CRT. that's right.

listen to me now and believe me later, you'll be hard pressed to find someone who can "bullseye" a target better than s1-Gon-Jin. the Open class is good, but it can't be your ONLY.

CONT:

shamarone

February 21, 2014 4:57 PM
Last Edited 209 days ago

CONT:

there will ALWAYS be a need for at least 2 classes (minimum). one for the factories and one for the privateer (ie. those who for whatever delusion think they have a snowball's chance of challenging the factories).

it's called handicapping. widen your perspective and you'll see it exists in numerous other sports OUTSIDE of MotoGP. motorcycling's not the centre of the universe, that's just something we like to THINK... and so goes our failures. thank you s1, you're welcome bike world.

Mr Murphy

February 21, 2014 5:04 PM

All the years this crap has going been going on and the so called experts hav'nt fixed it yet. Will they be happy when all the factories have gone?We have restrictions on Suzuki coming back,and stupid rules to slow them down. Hey people this is GRAND PRIX racing. Just get on with it. I for one am starting to lose interest. The racing is crap. I am lucky if I can stay awake during a race. I want to see the fastest , most special motorcycles built race unrestricted. Limits on fuel? I want racing that isn't an economy run with a sprint in the last few laps. Bloody Boring. All out unrestricted racing.will fix this. No second rate bikes, based on proddie engines.Racing at the top level is expensive Trying to save a few dollars by dumbing down the bikes is not the way .to go.

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