MotoGP » Honda responds to Ducati’s Open decision


Repsol Honda team manager Livio Suppo 'understands' Ducati's switch to the Open MotoGP category, but insists it goes against the 'aim' of the new class.

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V4Poweeeer

March 04, 2014 11:12 AM

Either Honda is once again lost in translation again (it happens all to often these days) or they are trying to dictate the status quo again.

Isn't the open ecu and software a fixed cost to purchase. Sorry Hinda you can't have your cake and eat it to. Nope cost increase there HRC.

Wasn't the director of racing for motogp recently stating that he hoped Ducati went open along with Suzuki a d Aprilia or any other potential future participants.

RaceRoad

March 04, 2014 11:18 AM

Doesn't Honda understand anything?
First it was Yamaha that wasn't playing by the rules, but Yamaha did precies and within the rules making a open bike. Now Ducati......and now even the ecu, because it is more complicated???

Suppo: "We need to understand - together with Dorna and the MSMA - if it was clear to everybody what the aim of this class was.

It is clear to everybuddy suppo!!! only not for Honda, again and again and again.!!! Seems Honda can't count laps and can't read the rules.!!

With all the moaning from Honda i hope they leave asap!! byebye


HRC

March 04, 2014 11:45 AM
Last Edited 145 days ago

I don't remember any 'moaning' about Yamaha by Honda.

As I've said before I believe the 'open' class RCV1000R Production Racer was designed and built for the CRT class i.e. well before the rules changed to 'open' and Honda simply got caught out by said rule change.

As for the 'open' spec ECU and software, I can fully understand their beef about it.
Hours before Ducati announce they are going 'open' out comes a huge software upgrade from the company that supply Ducati's electronics and if the rumours are true the 'open' ECU and it's software are now exactly the same as Ducati were using in the factory proto class.

How is that limiting electronics and costs, which is what this is all about in the first place and what Suppo is saying in the article.

So what we now have is a factory proto Ducati with their own factory software more fuel and softer tyres, all wrapped up in 'open' clothing.
Nice.

Brain

March 04, 2014 12:01 PM

RaceRoad: Doesn't Honda understand anything?
First it was Yamaha that wasn't playing by the rules, but Yamaha did precies and within the rules making a open bike. Now Ducati......and now even the ecu, because it is more complicated???

Suppo: "We need to understand - together with Dorna and the MSMA - if it was clear to everybody what the aim of this class was.

It is clear to everybuddy suppo!!! only not for Honda, again and again and again.!!! Seems Honda can't count laps and can't read the rules.!!

With all the moaning from Honda i hope they leave asap!! byebye



Love them or hate them, Honda makes Moto GP go round and round . Without them, the series would wilt and die on the vine. Be very careful what you wish for.

unmudura

March 04, 2014 12:04 PM

Selling uncompetitive Production Racers at 1million is in the spirit?
How hypocrite from the company that are spending the most in this sport at a point of others can't compete to talk about spirit...or afordable...or cutting costs...
Ducati move maybe isn't within spirit but within rules.

Till263

March 04, 2014 12:10 PM

seriously Honda if you dont like it then leave and take the MSMA with you.....The MSMA have done nothing other than to make sure only the Jap manufacturers win...Once they have gone then and only then will we see the Non Jap manufacturers come back.Would love to see the likes of MV BMW Triumph Norton etc and even EBR having a go.Look at what the MSMA have done to Ducati they dint like losing to them, a Non Jap taking the title not while the MSMA have anything to do with it !!

Stuey99

March 04, 2014 12:12 PM

Well I for one think this open class is an excellent idea. CRT, not so.
Suddenly we have more competitive bikes that normal teams can afford.
It's also helping Ducati get back on track.

So what if they update the ECU? The point is that the teams aren't paying for that R&D.

It's just a shame I don't have BT so wont get to see any of the races.

LLarry

March 04, 2014 12:36 PM

As usual Suppo is wide of the mark.
Ducati's move to 'open' is actually exactly the aim of the new class.
Dorna wants all bikes to ultimately be open class and is changing the rules to make the open class ever more attractive and competitive.
Honda doesn't like it because they can no longer throw megabucks at it to gain a competitive advantage.
Honda seems to think that 'factory' class should be the preserve of Honda and Yamaha with everyone else riding sub-standard machines (not least of which their own uncompetitive offering) just making up the numbers.
I hope Ducati & Forward Racing give them a serious run for their money.

Cris Zarate

March 04, 2014 12:39 PM

Brain:
RaceRoad: Doesn't Honda understand anything?
First it was Yamaha that wasn't playing by the rules, but Yamaha did precies and within the rules making a open bike. Now Ducati......and now even the ecu, because it is more complicated???

Suppo: "We need to understand - together with Dorna and the MSMA - if it was clear to everybody what the aim of this class was.

It is clear to everybuddy suppo!!! only not for Honda, again and again and again.!!! Seems Honda can't count laps and can't read the rules.!!

With all the moaning from Honda i hope they leave asap!! byebye



Love them or hate them, Honda makes Moto GP go round and round . Without them, the series would wilt and die on the vine. Be very careful what you wish for.



Are you serious @Brain? or is your real name Shuhei Nakatomo?

Everybody knows Honda ruined the sport by switching to 800cc... And now the are against the spec software cause they have already hired a lot

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