MotoGP » Factories set for first Michelin test


Manufacturers set for first Michelin MotoGP laps since end of 2008.

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TrueFan

August 15, 2014 3:26 PM

Maybe Yamaha will get the jump on this one. They will likely have their 2015 bike to test with, while Honda will be a couple more months, and Ducati won't get theirs until February, Honda's 2015 will be about the same as the 2014, so no big deal for them. Ducati is again behind the curve. Never mind privateers and newcoming factories. It would be nice if the control "constants" were at least constant.

LLarry

August 15, 2014 5:01 PM

This is so wrong.
'We have to develop the bike to the Michelin'.
It should be the other way round.
The control tyre approach has been a failure. Far from creating a level playing field it has tended to favour one team over all the others.
Let's go back to free tyre competition and let the teams choose who they want to work with.

mrfill

August 15, 2014 7:11 PM

@LLarry
So you prefer having a situation where the richest teams can have exotic, hyper-expensive tyres specially made for each track and the smaller teams getting stuffed just because they can't afford to buy a tyre maker? That creates a seriously unlevel playing field.
Since there has been a control tyre, it has not been one team that has dominated. Both Honda and Yamaha have won titles (rider and manufacturer) - in 5 years Honda won the manufacturers 3 times and the riders twice. Yamaha won 2 manufacturers and 3 riders titles. Looks pretty balanced to me and at least the small teams don't feel that yet another cash dependent factor is preventing them from progressing.

nortman

August 15, 2014 9:09 PM

I am in favour of multiple tyre suppliers but not the infamous overnight specials.
The tyre manufacturer should make the same specification of tyre available to all of their contracted teams/riders.

shamarone

August 16, 2014 7:12 AM

re: "Let's go back to free tyre competition and let the teams choose who they want to work with."

larry-lar, unbeknownst you've just revealed you're "baby young" to grandprix.

not that there's anything wrong with that, except no one who was actually AROUND AND PAYING ATTENTION during the era of free tyre competition (both GP and WSBK)...? would make such a statement.

shamarone

August 16, 2014 7:36 AM

re: "The tyre manufacturer should make the same specification of tyre available to all of their contracted teams/riders."

ok, so how should we police this...? not to imply it's "unpoliceable", what I mean is take the lead and formulate a workable plan, not some open-ended, pie in the sky nonsense.

I would hope by now I've imparted enough wisdom and examples of critical thinking that you guys should be able to "fly without a net". one day s1's not going to be here to kick around. to that end, time to delegate. i am deliberately holding back on answers to this topic.

iirc profx and talentfan were ORIGINALLY tasked with this mission, but they've come up short (i hereby force choke them till they pass out). YOU are in charge now Leftenant Nortman (Vader voice)... i'll expect a report on my desk come Monday 08:00.

shamarone

August 16, 2014 7:51 AM

re: "Maybe Yamaha will get the jump on this one. They will likely have their 2015 bike to test with, while Honda will be a couple more months"

ooops, maybe you missed it (perhaps YOU were also on holiday), but Honda tested their 2015 proto a month ago. this at the very track were running this weekend. in fact, Dan and Marc both took turns pitching it at the scenery.

right then, they already have some idea of what it's going to be like for EVERYBODY on 17's so again they're ahead.

shamarone

August 16, 2014 8:30 AM

re: "This is so wrong. 'We have to develop the bike to the Michelin'."

ps, that's what Suzuki said...!!! lol

re: "Michelin is taking over the exclusive MotoGP tyre supply from Bridgestone in 2016 and is also changing wheel size from 16.5 to 17 inch."

now don't be surprised if there's a press release from Hamamatsu saying they are going to "dangle the carrot" for another year. even though i already predicted this, i almost don't blame them. in fact, i WON'T blame them...

they've gotta be so mad they could SPIT.

see, this makes the 3rd major upheaval since they cancelled Christmas. they already knew Ezpelata had no love, but only now do we see more clearly the wisdom of my words for them to focus on WSBK and NOT go chasing glory in MotoGP.

1st was the debut of the seamless box, 2nd was the multi-layered OC debacle, 3rd is simultaneous change of both brand AND rim size. this is a friggin' TRAIN WRECK.

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