Dovi: It's easier than my 250!
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Why on earth can we not get rid of the electronics on these bikes?? F1 has finally got it, and now we need to wait for MotoGP to figure it out...Just listen to what Dovi says in this article about the throttle control needed to control a motogp bike these days...his 250cc bike is more threatening than his new gp ride??!! bring back the slipping and sliding we first saw in the motogp era in '02 and '03. Please Dorna - let the riders ride the bikes - and the worry of a tire or bike manufacturer being out ahead of the others will be made up by spirited riders pushing themselves and their bikes to the limit - rather than being limited - these people are professionals let them prove it.
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MOTOGP » Dovi: It's easier than my 250!

After his first afternoon as a MotoGP rider, Andrea Dovizioso declared that the Honda RC212V is easier to ride than his 250cc machine!

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Why on earth can we not get rid of the electronics on these bikes?? F1 has finally got it, and now we need to wait for MotoGP to figure it out...Just listen to what Dovi says in this article about the throttle control needed to control a motogp bike these days...his 250cc bike is more threatening than his new gp ride??!! bring back the slipping and sliding we first saw in the motogp era in '02 and '03. Please Dorna - let the riders ride the bikes - and the worry of a tire or bike manufacturer being out ahead of the others will be made up by spirited riders pushing themselves and their bikes to the limit - rather than being limited - these people are professionals let them prove it.
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Agreed gs, hearing a comment like that from a 250 guy is all the proof you need that the these new digital wunderbikes are sucking the life out of the series. There's nothing more dramatic than watching a top level rider manage wheel spin via-big horsepower with the throttle, I've seen little to none of that this year. These guys are good Dorna/manufacturers, training wheels are not required!
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More to do with Dorna imo

but agreed down with tc and the rest and let these lads show us what they can do
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Didn't someone say a few years ago it was 30% bike 70% rider. After reading Dovi's comments it now sounds more like 30% bike, 30% rider and 40% software engineer. Regardless of electronics, Dovi is a quality rider and if he has a solid season and Nicky doesn't, then he could find himself in the Repsol team in 2009. Or do Honda still need to keep an American interest for commercial reasons.
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Couldn't agree more with the above comments and the other problem that no one talks about is the huge COST of these electronic bikes - the worst part of this year was only having 19 bikes on a grid (and only 5 or 6 competative). On these modern tracks so few bikes on such large areas looked dull before the flag dropped. I remember going to PI a few years ago to see a sedan car race that had 32 starters and after 2 laps there was plenty of room - 19 bikes are going to look bad on TV! Change the rules on electronics - lower the costs, gets more teams involved and gives us a better race.
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Isn't traction control banned for 2008?

If not it should be.
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Nope, traction control is still there in 2008.
It really proves how easy these bikes are to ride, look at the two Spanish trial champions on Pedrosas Honda,
Both never rode a racing motorcycle before, let alone on a circuit! Shows you good the electronics are,
try that on a 500cc two-stroke racer, it would stand upright in every gear!
Stoner revealed after the Assen race that his engine management system will let him finish the race so that the fuel tank will not get empty during the race, it just makes it run more economical towards the end so he will always make it.
He was quickly shut up by the Ducati people after that...
Ban electronic gadgets!
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yep ... please ban all the electronics ... and bring back the full grid ... 17 riders looks like a club racing ... i'll bet some club racing has more ...
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No doubt that electronics is killing the spectacle that is Moto GP racing. Skill and talent is shown when a rider knows how much throttle and brakes to apply, not thinking "oh well, if i give too much out of this corner the electronics should sort it out" or "no need to release the clutch smoothly off the start, electronics will sort any wheelie mischief"

It's time to ditch the electronics and increase the capacity of these machines. Or we might as well have radio controlled bikes the way things are going.
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MotoGP: Another sport being brought close ruin by geeks and politics. Shame
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