<B>Toseland 'turns into a MotoGP rider'.</B>
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Give him a break, it's his first outing on a new track!
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MOTOGP » Toseland 'turns into a MotoGP rider'.

"James came here a Superbike rider and is leaving as a MotoGP rider."

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Yes, youre right, Lorenzo did use a qualifier to set his fastest time. So given he knew the track and has had time on the bike, doesn't that put Toselands time in a different perspective?
Posted by Will - Unregistered (742 days ago)
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motp you muppet. Quite clearly you havent read the whole report. I think Mr Poncheral states several times he is more than impressed by JT's progress.

Just give JT another few test sessions and we an re-visit this thread. If by the IRTA tests in Feb and March he is still last then you are welcome to make these comments.
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Talk is cheap & I'm not sure what you can read into testing times - acid test is the first Motogp race. Lets not build up our hopes too high.....
Posted by Andrew - Unregistered (742 days ago)
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JT is doing very well indeed, tho i dont agree with what is said by team boss about needed more concentration in Motogp race to WSBK, with less gizmos and being alot heavier the WSBK would be alot more of a handful, and the quality of riders is extremely good. Top 4 WSB vs Top4 GP id say supers has the edge right now, just personal view.

but also the yam is not a bad bike, thats just an excuse by certain people to back up their sucess or failures. something yam for the image need to stamp out. they fell behind a bit in the latter part of the season, but that was really only due to honda speeding up. other than the Duke(stoner) and Honda it was the OVERALL package to be on for every round.
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Found the full lis of lap times from Sepang.
Lorenzo's time without qualifiers was 2.03.044

1. Nicky Hayden (Honda) 2'00.592
2. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) 2'01.811
3. John Hopkins (Kawasaki) 2'02.047
4. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) 2'02.128
5. Chris Vermeulen (Suzuki) 2'02.447
6. Loris Capirossi (Suzuki) 2'02.587
7. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 2'02.643
8. Anthony West (Kawasaki) 2'02.659
9. Randy de Puniet (Honda) 2'02.700
10. Yamaha Test Team 2'03.269
11. James Toseland (Yamaha) 2'03.550
12. Yamaha Test Team 2'05.755
13. Yamaha Test Team 2'05.879

Interesting that there were so many Yamaha test riders there. Guess they are serious....
Posted by Morphine - Unregistered (742 days ago)
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Compared to some other the other Motogp bikes the 2007 Yam' was slower to accelerate off the corner and had a lower top speed.
Both these areas need to be addressed and Michelin need to develop tyres specifically for the Yamaha's rather allowing Honda tyre development to lead the Michelin program.
I do not see a Yamaha winning the championship in 2008 as Edwards is past it, Lorenzo and Toseland are too inexperienced and Rossi has lost his confidence.
I'll be betting that it is a fight between Stoner and Pedrosa and maybe Nicky. I would like to hope Hopkins will be there at the end as well as there has been soom sensible evolution of the Kawasaki.
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come on ... are you guys expecting herve to slag his new rider ... that's ridiculous ... i do believe james has the skills, but i don't think that yamaha has the right machine ... just look at this simple stats ... only biaggi and rossi has won on yamaha, and they had lots of riders from melandri, checa, barros (all are race winners) ... the ducati has capirossi, bayliss & stoner ... honda has the most list both factory and satellite won on it ... so, sorry james, i think you jumped the wrong ship ...
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Everyone thought Schumacher made a big mistake when he went to Ferrari in 96. He could have taken the easy option and stayed with Benetton and kept winning but he didn't. He put in the hours, got the team around him and look what happened! It took a while for him to become truly competetive and he still managed to get 3 victories out of the 96 Ferrari (which was no mean achievement!!). He didn't expect to win championships straight away but he worked and worked at it until he got it right.

It may take a while for JT and the team to get the Yam working right but when he does....then again, the best things in life are always worth waiting for!!
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yamaha have got one hell of a rider line up all multi world champions they have no excuse must produce agood bike next year or look very foolish.But i also say james should have gone to another team only Rossi will do some good with yamaha but show your strength next year James and maybe you will get a better ride (Colin did)
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I am sure that given a reasonably competitive bike that JT will give a good account of himself in his rookie year.
He should be compared to previous SBK and 250GP world champions stepping up to MotoGP on a customer bike as apposed to a full works bike.
I think that being half a second off of Lorenzo on race rubber, on a new track, being one test behind him (less laps under his belt), on a customer bike, is not a bad showing and hopefully the shape of things to come.
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