MOTOGP » Honda one-two as 2007 concludes - but...

I agree with you Morgue you are always right I have quoted Rossi wrong, I should not inserted inverted commas, I should not just condensed the quote,, of course I was writing about the same interview as you have written word for word, or was I ??????
Can I appologise to all the readers of this forum who hang on my every word awaiting any little mistake I make. The cad/cam users are alway right

Oh you sour man

Bottom line is he isn't clearly favouring it or against but wants parity and questions if this can be reached.
I think a controlled ECU like Darryl Beattie suggested is an interesting option, especially if the technology has such a dominating influence on racing (why else do they ban it in F1?)
When you look for instance to the Dakar rally, they work with a controlled GPS system, that prevents top teams from gaining too much on the other ones because it is costly.
Personally I say ban the lot but then probably half of the young snotnoses would end up in the gravel with broken limbs...

More standardisation and rules are no good. It would stop improvements and remove the uniqueness of the inventions. Yet it should stay a fine balance between the HUMAN part of the competition and the MECHANICAL part. If a feature becomes to important and dictates too much the HUMAN part, it should be banned at some point of time but you should never generalise a small part, like TC, to a complete ECU and controls. If TC is a problem you discuss it and remove it if needed (it's very easy to monitor by the way) But it would also mean, like DocR said, (1)more accidents and (2)also the DUC screamer would be unridable at the limit; Stoner would crash a lot more, believe me.

.. Its clear though that the 800cc + TC + 50% rider control is less fun to watch than a 990cc +TC + 90% Rider Control. To me the MECHANICAL part has become probably to important, in the end it should stay a HUMAN sport. I guess the 800cc's without TC would become su1c1de-machines, especially the Ducati-screamer. You'll have to ask ACE, he'll have an objective opinion for sure

What a load of crap comparing the 2 tyres on a formula 1 car with 36inches of rubber to the ground, and a MotoGp bike with 2 inches of rubber to the ground let alone the power to weight ratio.The riders safety comes first, if any rider wanted they can turn the traction control off not down off, not even Rossi who rode the 500cc two stroke doesn't turn his off. To say ban the lot and let the young snotnoses get broken limbs is sickening, MotoGp is an exciting sport not a blood sport goes to show why some people watch MotoGp doesn't it Morgue.

I said ban the lot BUT ...
that means it isn't feasible, TC has been around for years, it was introduced during the 500cc era.
It has just become so much of a factor now that it kills the sport.
Riders are losing their feeling with the bikes because their input is being questioned by a computer and then translated to the rear wheel. take it further and you will get to active suspension and ABS
by that time Schumachers mother (if she's still alive) can ride it safely.
If you think I'm in it for the accidents read back my posts of the last period, that will straighten you out.
don't be such a bore

Whether we like it or not the electronics are probably here to stay. I think that what we are seeing at the moment is that certain teams are more adaptive to the technology than others. Once the less adaptive teams catch up and get their electronics working to the same degree then the racing will get closer. Then we can all go back to arguing just about bike/tyre advantage. A real pity though that software engineers are playing an ever increasing role in who wins motorcycle races!

If it is possible, all they should do is turn the traction control down a bit. That will actually drive up the power figure.

Rider are losing the feeling and we are losing the believe in the riders ok i know they are the worlds best but the way things are going i think my mother could kick ars Morgue (think Schum mums past away).Turn the traction control down well yes sometink like that yes its been around a long time but riders could over ride it and now they have to ride to the computer, this does give faster lap times .its technology that needs turning down not interested in TC filtering down to road bikes buy a smaller cc bike if people feel 1000cc are to much for them dont want big bikes with TC buy them for the power .

I saw the film 'Faster' again recently, it starts with the last 500cc year and then the transition to the fourstrokes.
In a short clip you hear Hamish Jamieson, chief mechanic of Red Bull Yamaha say to Garry McCoy:
'...We'll just reset the Traction Control' (this was on a 500 two stroke).
So even the Slide King (Hail to him!) was using it.
This bike had four Keihin carburettors so it was probably purely regulating the electronic ignition steered by a sensor that monitored wheelspin
the technology has just been creepig up on us over the years.