MOTOGP » Ducati: Stoner has nothing to prove

For sure, Stoner has nothing to prove. The bike handles like a pig, as you could see the way it bucked and weaved today. He still gave it 100% with the other Ducati''s nowhere as usual.
Quite right - Ducati need to get their act together and produce an all-round competitive and rideable bike.

Yes nothing to prove but more to repeat? (for championship)

Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the handling on the duke. it's the electronics that need mastering which Stoner has. The bucking is because he doesn't have the finesse of a Rossi, with Rossi the bucking is gentler because it is controlled by his right wrist, with CS it's the electronics, he gets on the power almost immediately after the apex, but rather than a gentle rolling of the wrist it's the on/off(noughts and ones) of the electronics which mean they bite harder, but it is also what has made him so fast...not an excuse...He was well beaten from 9th by Rossi and demolished by DP...he has a lot to prove..........

I guess rossi was right about the same tires as Casey. Well they been on the same tires all season now and Rossi has been kicking his but. Casey's advantage last year was clearly machinery. He's still has a power advantage but now he doesn't hold a Tire and Power advantage. Rossi is easily the better rider on equal equipment. Vale can pass you anywhere. DP and casey can mostly only get you on the straight.

Well, if Casey had actuyally spent hte first few laps battling with Dani, rather than making mistakes, I doubt Dani would have gotten away. If he is fighting, he cant get into his rythm and the smooth style that gives him the most speed.

In terms of the bike bucking and weaving today and it being a problem. It bucked and weaved its way to last years MotoGP championship with Stoner sitting on it, and that never seemed to be a problem.

I think CSs main problem was the way that DP went off, Stoner was trying to match laptimes he couldn't do the whole weekend and I think early on this is what lead to the mistakes.
Dani is so smooth..

Note to yamaha-- must fit launch control like duke and honda...wow

Hats off to the guy. You can say whatever you like about how Stoner won the championship last year but it was emphatic in the same way as so many of Valentino's championship's. I'm no expert but even if the Ducati was that much better than evey other manufacturer, how is it possible that he was so much stronger than Capirossi last year and Melandri this year? Both these guys are obviously great riders but they havent been able to make the thing work at the same level.
Its plain to see that Melandri is struggling. Its been a great season so far as i'm sure it will continue to be.

Yes there is something to prove but it is not CS's ability but rather Ducati's ability to produce a 2008 bike that is predictable and can be ridden competitively by all Ducati riders. In the early laps CS seem to skate around everywhere causing him to loose position. Even when the bike came on in the last 6-7 laps watching the VR Yamaha and the CS Ducati lap after lap we saw a predictable bike that looked easy to ride and had good turn in compared to a bike that jumped,bucked and generally looked out of control.
Preziosi's comments are correct and the ball is in Ducati's court to provide a bike that is competitive without having to be ridden at 110%. That may mean a non steel frame.

CS just whacks open the throttle and let the bike do the rest.More than ride it like a 250GP bike,he rides it like a 125GP bike. Stoner uses more electronics than anybody, since he rides it like a 125GP. The b-stone front tires is GREAT and has loads of grip. Any 125 or 250 rider could do well on the duc. Problem is that none of the riders are. Capi and marco have not ridden one in a long time. If lorenzo were on the duc, stoner would be toast.

Weaving? Anybody notice Pedrosa? He even jumped on the grass at the end of the curbing.

I'm no expert but even if the Ducati was that much better than evey other manufacturer, how is it possible that he was so much stronger than Capirossi last year and Melandri this year?
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Loris didnt have a great year, but certainly not too far off what he normally would do '07=7th '06=3rd '05=6th, 04=9th) If Sete didnt take him out, he might have won a champ, but that means little.

He definately did not adapt to the 250cc style, rather than the old school 500/990 style, of racing. Casey did (but then Casey didnt spend a whole lotta time in the 990s) and he was quite happy to nail the throttle (like it needs) and ride around the bucking.
melandri certainly cant handle that