MOTOGP » Stoner wins Dutch TT, Rossi falls

Let's just get one thing straight shall we, us Rossi fans are not in any denial at all, the win today by stoner was about as dominant as I can remember for some years in this class.

The thing is it looks very easy for Casey to do so too.

I actualy beleive from what I have seen this week & last week at Donnington that we are in for a second half of the season domination from Stoner, as much as i hate to admitt it I think the writings on the wall now as the fall by Valentino has thrown away the very cushion he needed to re take the WC from Casey.

Unless Honda & Yamaha can pull something out of the bag then I can't see anything other that Stoner dominating the rest of the season, Cont

What a lot of BS. Most you guys couldnt take an unbiased view if your lives depended on it.

You can argue about TC all day. Fact is, it's in MotoGP. That means its up to the team to maximise to its potential and build a race winning bike and then the rider to ride it to its maximum. Currently Ducati and Stoner are doing it better than anyone else, and that's how you win races. As for arguing about different TC levels. At the end of the day as arm chair fans we know **** about whats going on the bike. It's all tied in with setup and rider preference. TC has pretty much been in MotoGP/500s since Rossi started. Can argue all day but will never know he better without it till its banned

Stoner wins again because of best bike/electronics. Stoner has no talent but the bike allows any skill-less idiot to win. EXACTLY - thats why we have had 4 Ducati's at the top for the last two races LOL.....

Stoner wins because he is the only rider out there with the balls to trust the electronics, after all the road Ducati's have a bit of a reputation for dodgy electrics

Being a fan of a particular rider doesn't mean you have to be a tool.

Like Hayden said today, "The bikes have so much electronics now, sometimes it is not the guy who rides hardest that wins: it is the guy who hits the right buttons on his computer."

Too much electronics in Moto GP?

Before anyone say's owt this ****** hurts to say it as we were sure that Valentino had the title in his pocket a few weeks ago but I'm not so sure now.

What ever Ducati have done with the electronics is simply amazing & has made a huge difference, any of the stoner fans that says it's all Stoner are wrong, he's good but not that good & he said the electronics upgrade has made all the difference to how he can ride & push the bike.

The damn thing seems to be on rails & casey seems to be able to ride the bike real fast every where.

All I can say is Valentino we are with you every step of the way & I hope you can win again next time out, I also hope Yamaha pull something out too.

Aghhhh ! It's all rigged like the cricket and "World Chapionship Wrestling " all they need to do now is introduce pit stops, driver changes and a tea break and it will be as good as F1.

Stitcho 27 Asolutely RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!

It is not the electronics braking for him, nor turning in or picking the line. Nor do they tell him when to get on the gas, or how to steer, how to make passes.

I am not a huge Stoner fan, but you've got to hand it to him - he can really ride that thing.

Plenty of races left and anything can happen. Watch out for pedrobot just bagging the podiums for the remainder of the season.

Surprisingly enough I've to agree with steve
Nowadays it's part of rider's job. You have to anticipate the grip levels, the breaking points, and what TC is going to do. Without latter skill your name is Marco Melandri.