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belly - Unregistered

October 18, 2008 8:53 AM

Hey Ronald - just how far back does one need to be to officially "battle through the field"? By my reckoning anywhere off the front row constitutes having a pack in front of you to battle through. Is it perhaps the third row - or does it have to be from the fourth row to qualify as a battle. If you are a fast starter I guess you'd need to be further back to get "battle" status, and further forward if you are a crap starter. How long does a rider have to be in the pack before it constitues a battle? Surely if a rider goes from say 7th position to 3rd at the first corner his battle was just a bit shorter than another rider who takes 5 laps to achieve the same result.

Paul 46!!!

October 18, 2008 9:01 AM

Belly - Personally I don't think a battle starts so much from the start line as realistically they are still only a few meters from the guy at the front!... latest example is Rossi qualifying 12th. If he had made a brilliant start and was say top 5 into turn one he is not really battling through the field there would only be 4 guys to pass in the rest of the race. So I think a fight through the pack could be if you are behind a majority of the field after first couple of turns?! its always going to be open to personal perception but that is how I see it myself...

DeAngelis at Mugello... Qualifies 10th, last at turn 1, 4th at the flag... thats probably a good example of what I mean!

belly - Unregistered

October 18, 2008 9:18 AM

So Ronald let me get this straight. If a rider starts in 12th position and passes every rider without any of them being able to sustain a challenge of at least 2 corners and / or an attempt at a repass then by definition (yours) he hasn't "battled through the field" .. right?? He has simply passed everyone and won the race.

See this is an example of the dogma I struggle with. Both groups of fan boys have a list of stock phrases that get rolled out without any relevance to what actually happens.

Doodaa - Unregistered

October 18, 2008 9:23 AM

If Casey doesn't win this weekend it will look pretty bad. It'll mean that every race that rossi has started within throwing distance of him, Rossi's won including the ones were Casey has broken lap records and not fallen off, hard to see how he can comeback.
He has said himself that it's hardly worth turning up for second...perhaps he should go to AMA I hear Aussies like it, not too much pressure and plenty of wonga to take away the pain..... :p

Fromage - Unregistered

October 18, 2008 9:49 AM

Doodaa, when you are old enough to ride a motorcycle perhaps you'll grow to understand why a 'Busa won't beat an R1 down a twisty road, but I don't live in hope. Ronald - you must have inside information: according to the motoGp analysis, Stoner's best speed was 306.2, Pedrosa's 306.8, Lorenzo's 305.9, Hayden's 304.7, Rossi's 302.5. But I guess rounded out to make up a tale, your figures sound ok.

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